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		<title>By: Bob Siddoway</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-399166</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Siddoway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A blind book review?  Haha, that&#039;s classic.


It is an interesting, if perhaps unneeded, concept for a book... at least for true wine lovers.  But hey, what do I know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blind book review?  Haha, that&#8217;s classic.</p>
<p>It is an interesting, if perhaps unneeded, concept for a book&#8230; at least for true wine lovers.  But hey, what do I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-399047</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monkeyboy - Interesting that local brewing is happening for many formerly imported beers in Australia too. That&#039;s global beer for ya.

As to craft beer&#039;s moment and the rivalry with wine, we had a good discussion about that earlier this week on this thread:
http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/24/craft-beer-is-overtaking-wine-sf-mag/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkeyboy &#8211; Interesting that local brewing is happening for many formerly imported beers in Australia too. That&#8217;s global beer for ya.</p>
<p>As to craft beer&#8217;s moment and the rivalry with wine, we had a good discussion about that earlier this week on this thread:<br />
<a href="http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/24/craft-beer-is-overtaking-wine-sf-mag/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/24/craft-beer-is-overtaking-wine-sf-mag/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-399046</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RobinC - FYI, Eric Asimov tweeted this comment with a link the Hosemaster review: &quot;The Hosemaster of Wine goes beyond the call of duty, reviewing &quot;How to Love Wine&quot; without having read it. Awesome!&quot; 

https://twitter.com/EricAsimov/status/260411540048576512]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RobinC &#8211; FYI, Eric Asimov tweeted this comment with a link the Hosemaster review: &#8220;The Hosemaster of Wine goes beyond the call of duty, reviewing &#8220;How to Love Wine&#8221; without having read it. Awesome!&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/EricAsimov/status/260411540048576512" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">https://twitter.com/EricAsimov/status/260411540048576512</a></p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-399011</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing new with the &quot;brewed under license&quot; fiasco here in Australia. Fosters/CUB/LionN have the market under wraps here - Becks, Kronenberg, Stella, Asahi, Peroni, Carlsberg, Miller, Grolsch, Kirin...the list goes on.

To be honest the brewed under license beers taste like a cross between cats piss and shite. Extremely unattractive much like the mass produced main stays they peddle - VB, Fosters, Tooheys, et.al - except worse &amp; at a premium.

Not to be a beer nazi, but I&#039;ve asked at a few restaurants whether I&#039;m getting the real deal or a local bootleg. I&#039;ve been comped a few times when I&#039;ve been told erroneous information. I&#039;ve asked them to check, to confirm, it&#039;s really not that hard is it? (pst it says on the bottle where it&#039;s made)

In saying that it&#039;s made for a couple of successful parallel import business that are brining the &quot;real&quot; beers into Australia (Peroni is a good case(&#039;scuse the pun), example for the Melbourne market). The crazy thing is is that I can buy the authentic imported &quot;real&quot; Peroni for less than what it would cost me to buy the locally brewed version. And taste wise there&#039;s no comparison(there was a blind tasting done on a few real vs. locally brewed beers gave interesting results - see if I can find the link). 

(All bets are off with Corona though, I don&#039;t think anyone can make it cheaper than what it costs to import from Mexico - Fosters/CUB tried and failed now they just ship it over by the boatload)

The other thing is the micro/artisan/craft-brew market is exploding in a massive way here in Australia. I actually think we maybe peaking in the interim before another thrust upwards. Be good to see the stats/figures and the like behind the Oz craftbrew market and see where we are compared to the US and ROW.

I do love my wine, but I&#039;m actually quite fascinated and taken with the craftbrew beer thing at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new with the &#8220;brewed under license&#8221; fiasco here in Australia. Fosters/CUB/LionN have the market under wraps here &#8211; Becks, Kronenberg, Stella, Asahi, Peroni, Carlsberg, Miller, Grolsch, Kirin&#8230;the list goes on.</p>
<p>To be honest the brewed under license beers taste like a cross between cats piss and shite. Extremely unattractive much like the mass produced main stays they peddle &#8211; VB, Fosters, Tooheys, et.al &#8211; except worse &amp; at a premium.</p>
<p>Not to be a beer nazi, but I&#8217;ve asked at a few restaurants whether I&#8217;m getting the real deal or a local bootleg. I&#8217;ve been comped a few times when I&#8217;ve been told erroneous information. I&#8217;ve asked them to check, to confirm, it&#8217;s really not that hard is it? (pst it says on the bottle where it&#8217;s made)</p>
<p>In saying that it&#8217;s made for a couple of successful parallel import business that are brining the &#8220;real&#8221; beers into Australia (Peroni is a good case(&#8216;scuse the pun), example for the Melbourne market). The crazy thing is is that I can buy the authentic imported &#8220;real&#8221; Peroni for less than what it would cost me to buy the locally brewed version. And taste wise there&#8217;s no comparison(there was a blind tasting done on a few real vs. locally brewed beers gave interesting results &#8211; see if I can find the link). </p>
<p>(All bets are off with Corona though, I don&#8217;t think anyone can make it cheaper than what it costs to import from Mexico &#8211; Fosters/CUB tried and failed now they just ship it over by the boatload)</p>
<p>The other thing is the micro/artisan/craft-brew market is exploding in a massive way here in Australia. I actually think we maybe peaking in the interim before another thrust upwards. Be good to see the stats/figures and the like behind the Oz craftbrew market and see where we are compared to the US and ROW.</p>
<p>I do love my wine, but I&#8217;m actually quite fascinated and taken with the craftbrew beer thing at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-398996</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quizicat - Yes, perhaps you missed the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/25/beer-lightstruck-skunked-wine-bottle-clear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post yesterday on &quot;lightstruck&quot; beer&lt;/a&gt;--a fancy way of saying skunked. A main cause is the bottle color and green bottles offers no protection against UV rays. Still, it seems mind-boggling that a major brewer could willingly release millions of bottles of beer knowing that it would result in a tremendous amount of off-bottles. But I suppose everything has a reason... 

Also, my comment about AB InBev opening ground to craft beer wasn&#039;t related to Becks new bottling in St. Louis after decades of marketing about the german purity law. The article talks about how Brito is a relentless cost-cutter and has swapped out whole grains and a beechwood provider and many hops in an effort to cut costs. Meanwhile, he has raised the price. So tactics like those are the ones that I see leaving a widening gap in the market, which craft beer is pouring into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quizicat &#8211; Yes, perhaps you missed the <a href="http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/25/beer-lightstruck-skunked-wine-bottle-clear/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">post yesterday on &#8220;lightstruck&#8221; beer</a>&#8211;a fancy way of saying skunked. A main cause is the bottle color and green bottles offers no protection against UV rays. Still, it seems mind-boggling that a major brewer could willingly release millions of bottles of beer knowing that it would result in a tremendous amount of off-bottles. But I suppose everything has a reason&#8230; </p>
<p>Also, my comment about AB InBev opening ground to craft beer wasn&#8217;t related to Becks new bottling in St. Louis after decades of marketing about the german purity law. The article talks about how Brito is a relentless cost-cutter and has swapped out whole grains and a beechwood provider and many hops in an effort to cut costs. Meanwhile, he has raised the price. So tactics like those are the ones that I see leaving a widening gap in the market, which craft beer is pouring into.</p>
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		<title>By: RobinC</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-398994</link>
		<dc:creator>RobinC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric Asimov&#039;s new book doesn&#039;t sound like something I would buy though I would like to leaf through it.  The Hosemaster&#039;s bitter, shabby, envious, tasteless pseudo review had some humerous insights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Asimov&#8217;s new book doesn&#8217;t sound like something I would buy though I would like to leaf through it.  The Hosemaster&#8217;s bitter, shabby, envious, tasteless pseudo review had some humerous insights.</p>
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		<title>By: John Glas</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2012/10/26/auction-price-drop-how-to-love-wine-end-of-discounts/#comment-398988</link>
		<dc:creator>John Glas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Becks is no better than the beer they have always brewed in St. Louis.  It just costs more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Becks is no better than the beer they have always brewed in St. Louis.  It just costs more.</p>
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		<title>By: Quizicat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quizicat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Becks will probably have less skunk problems with it being brewed here. In my youth I drank it quite often and found they had a bad record for skunkiness. Bud has been brewing other peoples beers under contract for a ling time. As do many others. I doubt many people will jump over to craft brews just because it&#039;s made in the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becks will probably have less skunk problems with it being brewed here. In my youth I drank it quite often and found they had a bad record for skunkiness. Bud has been brewing other peoples beers under contract for a ling time. As do many others. I doubt many people will jump over to craft brews just because it&#8217;s made in the US.</p>
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