Comments on: Are you for Champagne disgorgement dates? We are!

By: A vote against disgorgement dates: Peter Wasserman | Dr Vino's wine blog

A vote against disgorgement dates: Peter Wasserman | Dr Vino's wine blog — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:44:25 +0000

[...] the ongoing debate about whether champagnes should have disgorgement dates on the labels, discussion has mostly been in favor of the practice. Some critics refuse to review a [...]

By: Gregg Stephenson

Gregg Stephenson — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:13:00 +0000

The pressure needs be applied on all levels – Reviewers, Importers, Major Retailers – to affect real change that’s needed from the Champagne Houses. I applaud those who are making this a mission!

By: Champagne Francis Boulard Rosé Brut Nature « Darren Brogden

Champagne Francis Boulard Rosé Brut Nature « Darren Brogden — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:02:03 +0000

[...] Dr Vino – disgorgement [...]

By: Vendita Champagne

Vendita Champagne — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:35:37 +0000

I absolutely agree. Not only you risk of buying a champagne that is too old, but also you risk drinking a champagne too young. You may find to sharp acidity especially when the wine doesn’t do malolactic fermentation or a prevalent sweetness if the liquor de expedition didn’t have the time to settle. There are also some champagne lovers who prefers some oxidative notes and therefore buys today a Bollinger RD 1990. In general disgorgement dates tells you more of what you can expect opening the bottle.

By: Just say yes to disgorgement dates | Making Wine Labels

Just say yes to disgorgement dates | Making Wine Labels — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 23:09:16 +0000

[...] writers, myself included, voiced our support for his stance, most recently in some Twitter banter noting the problem last [...]

By: Warren Edwardes

Warren Edwardes — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:09:48 +0000

All wines have to have a Lot Number on the label for tracing purposes. The Lot number will (probably) indicate the disgorgement / labelling date. But perhaps the bottling date – anybody know the Lot number system for sparkling wines – bottling or labelling date?]

So no need to boycott particular wines. Just ask the winery for a table with lot numbers and labelling dates and bottling dates.

By: online wine store

online wine store — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:54:00 +0000

I agree, anything that provides the consumer with more information to be able to make a wise decision seems like a good idea.

By: Dave McIntyre

Dave McIntyre — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:32:47 +0000

Yes! Consumers deserve more information, not less. What they do with it – and how much they care about it – is up to them. But I don’t like the Champagne houses deciding for me that I don’t need that information.

Same argument goes for ingredient labeling.

By: the zinfidel

the zinfidel — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:24:50 +0000

I am so personally and professionally against scores. In fact, here is how I really feel about scores. They are irrelevant and useless. In fact,they are a negative in my book. As in, if you are said super critic and you give it 95 points, I don’t want anything to do with it. So you want to know why I write a wine blog, and why I like wine blogs, especially ones which eschew scores, well the reason why is that they actually say something about the individuality of wines. Scores, what are they good for, absolutely nothing. Say it again…

By: 1WineDude

1WineDude — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:37:56 +0000

Here’s another incentive – in the efforts to differentiate themselves as the original region of bubbly, and differentiate themselves *from* other regions that make bubbly, having a DD is another item to add to that checklist (“Well son, *real* Champagne also carries a indication of its DD…”).

I’m all for it.

By: Dave Erickson

Dave Erickson — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:54:20 +0000

Bertrand Gautherot of Champagne Vouette et Sorbeé puts his disgorgement dates right on the label where you can see them. No secret decoder ring required.

By: Terroirist » Daily Wine News: Washington Privatizes!

Terroirist » Daily Wine News: Washington Privatizes! — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:42:09 +0000

[...] dates are important. On Dr. Vino, Tyler Colman explains why he’s “in favor of Champagne producers putting some sort of legible, [...]

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:07:44 +0000

I favor disgorgement dates. I think it not only provides benefit to the consumer but can also build trust and value of reputation for the producers.

By: Robin C

Robin C — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:24:49 +0000

I have always been mystified by NV champagnes and why it didn’t seem to matter when they were bottled. I think it’s great to be given more information about the champagnes – it only increases the interest in the process.

By: Todd - VT Wine Media

Todd - VT Wine Media — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:39:26 +0000

Certainly disgorgement dates should be included…obvioulsy the producer keeps a record, and it is a simple requirement to have the label reflect.
We make bubbly at home, and we actually do not disgorge, partially as a time and process saver, but also because no one seems to care. After serving hundreds of glasses, not a single soul has refused to drink, even when it has been pointed out. Maybe acceptance is there because of enough craft beer being made, that has yeast remains in the bottle, or that folks know there are B complex vitamins.
What are the chances that non-disgorged bubbly could marketed successfully? It might riddle the Veuve Cliquot in her tomb, but would certainly reduce production costs.