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		<title>By: FALSAS APARIENCIAS &#171; Sociedad de Cata Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-381584</link>
		<dc:creator>FALSAS APARIENCIAS &#171; Sociedad de Cata Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] esa borrosa línea entre lo lícito defendido por la revista de Parker y lo ilícito del llamado “pay to play” (si no pagas, no juegas) pareciera inexistente porque Miller permitió a Campo tener más [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] esa borrosa línea entre lo lícito defendido por la revista de Parker y lo ilícito del llamado “pay to play” (si no pagas, no juegas) pareciera inexistente porque Miller permitió a Campo tener más [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scores on labels: what&#8217;s the point? &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-368701</link>
		<dc:creator>Scores on labels: what&#8217;s the point? &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Spanish wineries looooove critics, so much so that they would pay extravagant fees for a &#8220;master class&#8221; by a point-wielding critic on &#8220;a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spanish wineries looooove critics, so much so that they would pay extravagant fees for a &#8220;master class&#8221; by a point-wielding critic on &#8220;a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Dawes</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-367132</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay Miller answers the contentions made about him in the Antonio Casado article on the elmundovino.es website. For those who read Spanish or who want to run the article through Google translator to get a rough translation, Miller defends himself pretty well concerning the Casado piece, but doesn&#039;t answer the allegations about his association with Pancho Campo in Spain. http://elmundovino.elmundo.es/elmundovino/noticia.html?vi_seccion=2&amp;vs_fecha=201112&amp;vs_noticia=1323938359]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Miller answers the contentions made about him in the Antonio Casado article on the elmundovino.es website. For those who read Spanish or who want to run the article through Google translator to get a rough translation, Miller defends himself pretty well concerning the Casado piece, but doesn&#8217;t answer the allegations about his association with Pancho Campo in Spain. <a href="http://elmundovino.elmundo.es/elmundovino/noticia.html?vi_seccion=2&#038;vs_fecha=201112&#038;vs_noticia=1323938359" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://elmundovino.elmundo.es/elmundovino/noticia.html?vi_seccion=2&#038;vs_fecha=201112&#038;vs_noticia=1323938359</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Dawes</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-366963</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not &quot;conview,&quot; but &quot;convey.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not &#8220;conview,&#8221; but &#8220;convey.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Dawes</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-366962</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps, Michael, you should conview your views to Meininger&#039;s Wine Business International, who appear to have no personal axes to grind and I am sure, reluctant to engage in vendettas. http://wine-business-international.com/163-bmV3c19pZD0yMzUwMiZuZXdzbGV0dGVyPTE--en-Up_to_date-news-news_detail.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, Michael, you should conview your views to Meininger&#8217;s Wine Business International, who appear to have no personal axes to grind and I am sure, reluctant to engage in vendettas. <a href="http://wine-business-international.com/163-bmV3c19pZD0yMzUwMiZuZXdzbGV0dGVyPTE--en-Up_to_date-news-news_detail.html" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://wine-business-international.com/163-bmV3c19pZD0yMzUwMiZuZXdzbGV0dGVyPTE&#8211;en-Up_to_date-news-news_detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-366929</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this sounds like a personal vendetta against Campo and his associates. The vain in which comments are made have no journalistic standing and seems opaque at best. Journos who have met Miller and have written about him, seem intent on being very personal and implying he has plagiarised or is not worthy of expressing opinions. In all this messy affair, it is clear that a particular English journalist has something personal against Campo. Let&#039;s see clear evidence first before we all jump to spurious and unfounded conclusions.
The Interpol case against Campo was dropped yet we continually see this constantly mentioned in an attempt to bring him down. Does anyone have any idea what that particular case was about? I doubt it. Next we&#039;ll be hearing interpol were bribed too. Be very careful people. What ever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty. 
Furthermore, it seems it has escaped everyones attention that Miller had actually announced his resignation in January; yet it is made out that he has resigned because of this so called &quot;campogate&quot; affair.
Let&#039;s wait and see people before we all get holier than though. Some of the writing I have seen is extremely personal and venomous and tinged with a deliberate attempt to discredit individuals. This is in reference to Antonio Casados rather pathetic attempt at getting personal on Miller and any writings by Jim Budd who has it is known long been out for Campos blood.
I am a fan of what the wine academy is doing in bringing Spanish wines to the fore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this sounds like a personal vendetta against Campo and his associates. The vain in which comments are made have no journalistic standing and seems opaque at best. Journos who have met Miller and have written about him, seem intent on being very personal and implying he has plagiarised or is not worthy of expressing opinions. In all this messy affair, it is clear that a particular English journalist has something personal against Campo. Let&#8217;s see clear evidence first before we all jump to spurious and unfounded conclusions.<br />
The Interpol case against Campo was dropped yet we continually see this constantly mentioned in an attempt to bring him down. Does anyone have any idea what that particular case was about? I doubt it. Next we&#8217;ll be hearing interpol were bribed too. Be very careful people. What ever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty.<br />
Furthermore, it seems it has escaped everyones attention that Miller had actually announced his resignation in January; yet it is made out that he has resigned because of this so called &#8220;campogate&#8221; affair.<br />
Let&#8217;s wait and see people before we all get holier than though. Some of the writing I have seen is extremely personal and venomous and tinged with a deliberate attempt to discredit individuals. This is in reference to Antonio Casados rather pathetic attempt at getting personal on Miller and any writings by Jim Budd who has it is known long been out for Campos blood.<br />
I am a fan of what the wine academy is doing in bringing Spanish wines to the fore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Miller leaves the Wine Advocate &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-364224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Miller leaves the Wine Advocate &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Campogate: No pay, no Jay&#8221; [Jim&#039;s Loire] &#8220;Regional group charges wineries fees for Wine Advocate tasting&#8220;   window.fbAsyncInit = function() { FB.init({appId: &quot;&quot;, status: true, cookie: true, xfbml: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
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		<dc:creator>El</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irene. There was a payment done to Pancho Campo&#039;s company and the Murcia community paid for it and that was around 30,000€.  You paid one way or another hopefully you get good points and the payment makes it worth while for your winery and the regions investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irene. There was a payment done to Pancho Campo&#8217;s company and the Murcia community paid for it and that was around 30,000€.  You paid one way or another hopefully you get good points and the payment makes it worth while for your winery and the regions investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-363977</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to share my own experience with you. Pancho and Miller came to visit my winery last July, here in Spain. We did not paid an euro, nothing at all. We did not pay Pancho, Miller and not even our DO Consejo Regulador. There was a Masterclass about the US Wine Market. That was maybe paid by the DO, but not by the wineries. We did not even pay for attending the masterclass. So, can we beleive all the info published? I have my doubts. In our case, everything was for free. Not 1 Euro was paid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to share my own experience with you. Pancho and Miller came to visit my winery last July, here in Spain. We did not paid an euro, nothing at all. We did not pay Pancho, Miller and not even our DO Consejo Regulador. There was a Masterclass about the US Wine Market. That was maybe paid by the DO, but not by the wineries. We did not even pay for attending the masterclass. So, can we beleive all the info published? I have my doubts. In our case, everything was for free. Not 1 Euro was paid!</p>
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		<title>By: Stitches, cover typo, Valencia, paper bottles, Burgundy &#8211; sipped &#38; spit &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-358207</link>
		<dc:creator>Stitches, cover typo, Valencia, paper bottles, Burgundy &#8211; sipped &#38; spit &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] month. An email to Miller last week requesting comment did not garner a reply. It appears that his visit to neighboring Murcia has been canceled or [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] month. An email to Miller last week requesting comment did not garner a reply. It appears that his visit to neighboring Murcia has been canceled or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-358199</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proava.org/index.php?option=com_k2&amp;view=item&amp;id=233:jay&amp;Itemid=163&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proava.org&lt;/a&gt; reported last month that Miller was to go to Valencia to offer a &quot;master class&quot; in a few weeks. 

I contacted Miller via email for reaction last week. No reply was forthcoming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.proava.org/index.php?option=com_k2&#038;view=item&#038;id=233:jay&#038;Itemid=163" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Proava.org</a> reported last month that Miller was to go to Valencia to offer a &#8220;master class&#8221; in a few weeks. </p>
<p>I contacted Miller via email for reaction last week. No reply was forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Pellechia</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-357899</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pellechia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...ASEVIN’S proposal to TWA to visit Murcia arises from the interest of wineries in the area, which form part of our association, in receiving Jay Miller’s opinion about Jumilla, and in gleaning better insight into the US and Asian markets.&quot;

So, when did critics that profess to be consumer advocates start offering wineries insight into marketing?

After merely 28 years in the business, I&#039;m seem to be confused concerning roles...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;ASEVIN’S proposal to TWA to visit Murcia arises from the interest of wineries in the area, which form part of our association, in receiving Jay Miller’s opinion about Jumilla, and in gleaning better insight into the US and Asian markets.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, when did critics that profess to be consumer advocates start offering wineries insight into marketing?</p>
<p>After merely 28 years in the business, I&#8217;m seem to be confused concerning roles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: El</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-356844</link>
		<dc:creator>El</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Payments and lady of leisure. Nobody in Spain will open there mouths out of fear at the moment. I am included as i live from the the wine world that i so dearly enjoy and having Mr.J or Mr.P talkin badly about you is not a good thing. But wineries will soon relizes that 90 points or more these days does not mean that there vintage will not be a sell out. At the end of the day I comes down to money. Time will tell with these experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Payments and lady of leisure. Nobody in Spain will open there mouths out of fear at the moment. I am included as i live from the the wine world that i so dearly enjoy and having Mr.J or Mr.P talkin badly about you is not a good thing. But wineries will soon relizes that 90 points or more these days does not mean that there vintage will not be a sell out. At the end of the day I comes down to money. Time will tell with these experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-356820</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seve,

Is that you? From the other side?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seve,</p>
<p>Is that you? From the other side?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Dawes</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/11/02/miller-campo-murcia-wine-tasting/#comment-356564</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In late 2011, 60 Minutes and Vanity Fair reported that 83% of poll respondents didn&#039;t know what the phrase meant, and 9% felt the phrase itself had &#039;jumped the shark.&#039;&quot; Perhaps, the question should be asked is &quot;How did &#039;ladies of leisure and Interpol&#039;&quot; find their way onto a thread about the ethics of wine writing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In late 2011, 60 Minutes and Vanity Fair reported that 83% of poll respondents didn&#8217;t know what the phrase meant, and 9% felt the phrase itself had &#8216;jumped the shark.&#8217;&#8221; Perhaps, the question should be asked is &#8220;How did &#8216;ladies of leisure and Interpol&#8217;&#8221; find their way onto a thread about the ethics of wine writing?</p>
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