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		<title>By: Iran</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-355186</link>
		<dc:creator>Iran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Australia]]></description>
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		<title>By: justina</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-355185</link>
		<dc:creator>justina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kloustenberg, austria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kloustenberg, austria.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-355167</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the correct answer. Having never been to Languedoc, but dying to do so, it is understandable that I missed it. The drier sandy soil, and lack of  buildings, large vineyards all make sense now. Beaujolais? what was I thinking! I&#039;m banging my head in a &quot;Holmes you blew it, a little too much morphine?&quot; manner.

The Blauer Limberger I bet is from a German source. At least I got it right that it was an experimental block. A lot of very smart and open forward thinking guys in Languedoc, which some call the &quot;new world of Europe&quot; so maybe my guesses weren&#039;t so far off in a way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correct answer. Having never been to Languedoc, but dying to do so, it is understandable that I missed it. The drier sandy soil, and lack of  buildings, large vineyards all make sense now. Beaujolais? what was I thinking! I&#8217;m banging my head in a &#8220;Holmes you blew it, a little too much morphine?&#8221; manner.</p>
<p>The Blauer Limberger I bet is from a German source. At least I got it right that it was an experimental block. A lot of very smart and open forward thinking guys in Languedoc, which some call the &#8220;new world of Europe&#8221; so maybe my guesses weren&#8217;t so far off in a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-355163</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some great guesses here, on a photo that is almost unidentifiable.  I second Dr. Vino&#039;s appreciation of Paul&#039;s analysis.  I would not have made such a good guess, that is for sure. 

Part of the reason that I found it so interesting was because Languedoc is a region that is doing a lot of experimentation and many of the smaller producers in areas outside the AOC names we know, struck me as being unsure of which direction they ought to head in terms of international markets. 

To be a bit more precise, this is a research station near Cadabres, and AOC that is halfway between the Atlantic and the Mediterranean in both distance and varietals.  From the AOC website:

&quot;Cabardès is the only French appellation to associate 40% minimum of atlantic grape varieties (Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon and Franc, Cot and Fer Servadou) with 40% minimum of mediterranean grape varieties (Syrah and Grenache), completion of blends possible with 20% of Cot and Fer Servadou. This unique possibility is due to the position of the vineyard under an east - west transitional climate which naturally influences the local vegetation. The meeting of cool winds from the Aquitaine with the hot mediterranean sun, dream of any wine maker, enables complex wines to be made from the appellation&#039;s large palette of grape varieties, blending being the key to the wines&#039; rich balance.&quot;

Read more here: http://cabardes.free.fr/pages/en/syndicat.html

I wish I could find a link to the research center.  Perhaps the folks at Languedoc Wines can help.  It was on a trip sponsored by Sud de France that I was taken to this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great guesses here, on a photo that is almost unidentifiable.  I second Dr. Vino&#8217;s appreciation of Paul&#8217;s analysis.  I would not have made such a good guess, that is for sure. </p>
<p>Part of the reason that I found it so interesting was because Languedoc is a region that is doing a lot of experimentation and many of the smaller producers in areas outside the AOC names we know, struck me as being unsure of which direction they ought to head in terms of international markets. </p>
<p>To be a bit more precise, this is a research station near Cadabres, and AOC that is halfway between the Atlantic and the Mediterranean in both distance and varietals.  From the AOC website:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cabardès is the only French appellation to associate 40% minimum of atlantic grape varieties (Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon and Franc, Cot and Fer Servadou) with 40% minimum of mediterranean grape varieties (Syrah and Grenache), completion of blends possible with 20% of Cot and Fer Servadou. This unique possibility is due to the position of the vineyard under an east &#8211; west transitional climate which naturally influences the local vegetation. The meeting of cool winds from the Aquitaine with the hot mediterranean sun, dream of any wine maker, enables complex wines to be made from the appellation&#8217;s large palette of grape varieties, blending being the key to the wines&#8217; rich balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more here: <a href="http://cabardes.free.fr/pages/en/syndicat.html" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://cabardes.free.fr/pages/en/syndicat.html</a></p>
<p>I wish I could find a link to the research center.  Perhaps the folks at Languedoc Wines can help.  It was on a trip sponsored by Sud de France that I was taken to this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354920</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrific guesses here--I hope you enjoyed our weekend edutainment! 

Alas, no California Grand Cru gold stars to hand out. But Jeff did a sterling job and for that he gets a premier cru washington designation! 

He writes that &quot;it&#039;s a test vineyard halfway between Limoux and the
appellation to the west of Limoux where they are playing with all sorts
of odd things.

Thought is was interesting for the juxtaposition of the varieties and
the geography. &quot;

Yes, limburger is Blaufrankisch but (pretty much) only in Austria. Thus it had to be elsewhere as several of you assumed. Anyway, Languedoc, not Washington!

Please send in a photo from your travels if you think you can stump us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific guesses here&#8211;I hope you enjoyed our weekend edutainment! </p>
<p>Alas, no California Grand Cru gold stars to hand out. But Jeff did a sterling job and for that he gets a premier cru washington designation! </p>
<p>He writes that &#8220;it&#8217;s a test vineyard halfway between Limoux and the<br />
appellation to the west of Limoux where they are playing with all sorts<br />
of odd things.</p>
<p>Thought is was interesting for the juxtaposition of the varieties and<br />
the geography. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, limburger is Blaufrankisch but (pretty much) only in Austria. Thus it had to be elsewhere as several of you assumed. Anyway, Languedoc, not Washington!</p>
<p>Please send in a photo from your travels if you think you can stump us!</p>
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		<title>By: Gert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Washington?]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okanagan Valley/British Columbia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okanagan Valley/British Columbia</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354898</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Going out on a limb, here, but South Africa?  Those words seem faintly Dutch to me . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going out on a limb, here, but South Africa?  Those words seem faintly Dutch to me . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Arto Koskelo</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354894</link>
		<dc:creator>Arto Koskelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a tricky question. The correct answer is... New Zealand!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tricky question. The correct answer is&#8230; New Zealand!</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgos Hadjistylianou</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354889</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgos Hadjistylianou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff check out Ernst Trimbaumer&#039;s Blaufrankisch]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff check out Ernst Trimbaumer&#8217;s Blaufrankisch</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to hog the Blog-stage but its just that I&#039;m such a fan of Balufrankisch, Lim/lemberger.etc.. I think it is a world class grape that nobody knows except Austria. But the truth is that it is really too cold in Austria for it to show what it can do. It does amazingly well in Washington State with its hotter drier desert climate but nobody to date has really given it a chance to succeed.

I acknowledge that Blauer Limberger is one official name for the grape, but this is what the Germans or Germanophiles call it. The Austrians universally in my experience call it Blaufrankisch. Germany would be my first choice, especially the Phalz, but the dry sandy soil and the lack of buildings leads me to guess elsewhere.

So one more wild guess. The Balkans, Romania/Bulgaria. Lots of German investment there in wine, just the place where an experimental block of these grapes would be planted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hog the Blog-stage but its just that I&#8217;m such a fan of Balufrankisch, Lim/lemberger.etc.. I think it is a world class grape that nobody knows except Austria. But the truth is that it is really too cold in Austria for it to show what it can do. It does amazingly well in Washington State with its hotter drier desert climate but nobody to date has really given it a chance to succeed.</p>
<p>I acknowledge that Blauer Limberger is one official name for the grape, but this is what the Germans or Germanophiles call it. The Austrians universally in my experience call it Blaufrankisch. Germany would be my first choice, especially the Phalz, but the dry sandy soil and the lack of buildings leads me to guess elsewhere.</p>
<p>So one more wild guess. The Balkans, Romania/Bulgaria. Lots of German investment there in wine, just the place where an experimental block of these grapes would be planted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Impressive guessing! Especially Jeff! 

I won&#039;t revel the location until tomorrow in case others want to get in on the fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive guessing! Especially Jeff! </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t revel the location until tomorrow in case others want to get in on the fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Erickson</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354808</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[California. Maybe Abe Schoener?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California. Maybe Abe Schoener?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie C.</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354806</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhere in Washington state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere in Washington state.</p>
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		<title>By: ElGordo</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2011/10/22/vineyard-mystery/#comment-354802</link>
		<dc:creator>ElGordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Austria or Germany, possibly Canada.  I&#039;m voting for Germany, Wurttemberg specifically.  Blauer Limberger is the technical classification of German Lemberger...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austria or Germany, possibly Canada.  I&#8217;m voting for Germany, Wurttemberg specifically.  Blauer Limberger is the technical classification of German Lemberger&#8230;</p>
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