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Bravo! Age is everything.. •RT• In praise of mature wine [link to post] @drvino *btw, 40 is still young.. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
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Bravo! Age is everything.. •RT• In praise of mature wine [link to post] @drvino *btw, 40 is still young.. <img src='http://www.drvino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t young people like mature wines?  The answer is obvious, although it applies to older people as well as young people: as wines age they lose their fruit and their more voluptuous qualities, and as 99% of all wines made are meant to be consumed within their first few years, and as few of us have cellars, people young and old are used to the youthful voluptuousness of young wines.  I think it&#039;s about how we&#039;ve taught ourselves to drink.  This is not a criticism, by the way: I myself love wines when they&#039;ve aged to the point of developing more complexity and evoke autumnal flavors and dried leaf / fruit qualities -- e.g. ageworthy reds that are 10 to 15 years old -- but find it hard to appreciate those wines that have almost no fruit left whatsoever.

Also, as was mentioned above, aged bottles, which are that much more likely to be expensive, are also that much more susceptible to flaws: TCA and particularly heat damage.  On the extraordinarily rare occasion that I shell out more than $40 for a bottle, I wince, as I fear what happened recently when I bought a bottle of Paolo Bea Montefalco Sagrantino 2001: it was rancid with TCA.  A heartbreaker, that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t young people like mature wines?  The answer is obvious, although it applies to older people as well as young people: as wines age they lose their fruit and their more voluptuous qualities, and as 99% of all wines made are meant to be consumed within their first few years, and as few of us have cellars, people young and old are used to the youthful voluptuousness of young wines.  I think it&#8217;s about how we&#8217;ve taught ourselves to drink.  This is not a criticism, by the way: I myself love wines when they&#8217;ve aged to the point of developing more complexity and evoke autumnal flavors and dried leaf / fruit qualities &#8212; e.g. ageworthy reds that are 10 to 15 years old &#8212; but find it hard to appreciate those wines that have almost no fruit left whatsoever.</p>
<p>Also, as was mentioned above, aged bottles, which are that much more likely to be expensive, are also that much more susceptible to flaws: TCA and particularly heat damage.  On the extraordinarily rare occasion that I shell out more than $40 for a bottle, I wince, as I fear what happened recently when I bought a bottle of Paolo Bea Montefalco Sagrantino 2001: it was rancid with TCA.  A heartbreaker, that.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Reads Wednesday &#171; Artisan Family of Wines</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being one of these young folks, I completely agree with the point brought up of lack of access to mature wines. Although my parents were the ones to initially educate me about wine, they never were one to keep a cellar. Outside of the industry job I&#039;ve been so fortunate to have for just over a year now, I&#039;ve been able to taste some beautiful 8-15+ year old Pinot Noirs, Chardonnays and Rieslings, and some that were tainted or falling off.
I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s a local phenomena, most of the young wine folks I interact with fall under what I like to call &quot;causal wine nerds&quot;. They&#039;re some of the best educated folks I talk to, and are always wanting to learn more, but are easily turned off by things they(we) deem as pretentious.
I&#039;ve had it recouonted many times that younger folks have gotten bad service at various establishments just because of their age, and generally feel like 2nd rate wine-citizens. Older wine enthusists who are always talking about their 20 year old some-or-another might play into this idea of pretentious wine culture, and help to turn them off from mature wines.
Then again I might just be adding 2+3 and getting 6, but next time you&#039;re opening an cellared bottle, see if you can&#039;t find a younger wine drinker you can help with their ongoing wine education.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being one of these young folks, I completely agree with the point brought up of lack of access to mature wines. Although my parents were the ones to initially educate me about wine, they never were one to keep a cellar. Outside of the industry job I&#8217;ve been so fortunate to have for just over a year now, I&#8217;ve been able to taste some beautiful 8-15+ year old Pinot Noirs, Chardonnays and Rieslings, and some that were tainted or falling off.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s a local phenomena, most of the young wine folks I interact with fall under what I like to call &#8220;causal wine nerds&#8221;. They&#8217;re some of the best educated folks I talk to, and are always wanting to learn more, but are easily turned off by things they(we) deem as pretentious.<br />
I&#8217;ve had it recouonted many times that younger folks have gotten bad service at various establishments just because of their age, and generally feel like 2nd rate wine-citizens. Older wine enthusists who are always talking about their 20 year old some-or-another might play into this idea of pretentious wine culture, and help to turn them off from mature wines.<br />
Then again I might just be adding 2+3 and getting 6, but next time you&#8217;re opening an cellared bottle, see if you can&#8217;t find a younger wine drinker you can help with their ongoing wine education.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hosted a &quot;Wine 101&quot; class last night with 19 wine &quot;newbies&quot; who wanted to know more about what they were drinking. All attended bringing a bottle of wine and we proceeded to taste and discuss. A good number of the attendees were under 40. At the end of the session, I brought out a decanted 1999 Optimus X from the Barossa and even after tasting through 18 other wines, you could see their faces light up -- the light bulb had come on.

I agree that most of the folks along  the wine trail that haven&#039;t had the experience of properly aged wines simply haven&#039;t had the opportunity to experience a &quot;light bulb&quot; wine and when they do, they GET IT!

Seeking out a retail establishment with a good track record and working with them for properly aged specimens is probably the best way to obtain them. Once they experience one of these &quot;experience wines,&quot; it shows them what wine *can* be, rather than the immediate gratification drink of the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hosted a &#8220;Wine 101&#8243; class last night with 19 wine &#8220;newbies&#8221; who wanted to know more about what they were drinking. All attended bringing a bottle of wine and we proceeded to taste and discuss. A good number of the attendees were under 40. At the end of the session, I brought out a decanted 1999 Optimus X from the Barossa and even after tasting through 18 other wines, you could see their faces light up &#8212; the light bulb had come on.</p>
<p>I agree that most of the folks along  the wine trail that haven&#8217;t had the experience of properly aged wines simply haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to experience a &#8220;light bulb&#8221; wine and when they do, they GET IT!</p>
<p>Seeking out a retail establishment with a good track record and working with them for properly aged specimens is probably the best way to obtain them. Once they experience one of these &#8220;experience wines,&#8221; it shows them what wine *can* be, rather than the immediate gratification drink of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: tables</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/10/07/in-praise-mature-old-wine/#comment-313804</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the flavor of matured wine does not have the guts to catch the taste buds of the young ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the flavor of matured wine does not have the guts to catch the taste buds of the young ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod H.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another great article from Dr. Vee! Its great to see you hit on a topic that inspires so much discussion. Keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article from Dr. Vee! Its great to see you hit on a topic that inspires so much discussion. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To &#039;A Champagne Girl&#039;

I couldn&#039;t agree more.  Champagne represents some of the most complex wines in the market.  The marginal climate means that ageing wines whether they are base wines (NV) or on lees is paramount to achieving complexity.

To put things into perspective we can purchase Grand and Premier Cru wines from champagne at a fraction of the price of top Bordeaux/Burgundy and they have age on them too.]]></description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  Champagne represents some of the most complex wines in the market.  The marginal climate means that ageing wines whether they are base wines (NV) or on lees is paramount to achieving complexity.</p>
<p>To put things into perspective we can purchase Grand and Premier Cru wines from champagne at a fraction of the price of top Bordeaux/Burgundy and they have age on them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FOR SHAME, DOC V!  You posit that young drinkers dislike mature wine (or rather ask why they do, therefore accepting the proposition as fact), then cite as your source &quot;a couple of people.&quot;  Might want to brush up on your science there doc.  

In any case it seems that everyone here has hit on the high points, but here are the reasons that I could see such an idea existing: a) young drinkers have no access to aged wines, b) since this generation is producing far more wine drinkers than ever before they mostly come from non-wine families, thus no cellar to inherit and no time yet to have built one&#039;s own, c) attempts and experiments with sourcing aged wines can be inherently frustrating, expensive, and prone to extremely high rates of failure due to both storage issues and production issues, d) pure cost concerns

I am sure that I could think of more, but these seem to be the most relevant, with simple lack of exposure the biggest of those problems.  You may occasionally get the opinion asserted by Rachel above, of preferring very potent wines to those whose tannins have softened by age.  However, this seems far more of an issue of nascent wine drinkers than younger wine drinkers (with the two quite logically often going hand-in-hand), and so to the list we can add...

f) Robert Parker and his ilk have created a generation of tannin-crazed, residual sugar addicted, vino-bots who will require extensive deprogramming in the years to come.  Luckily I think the actual younger wine drinkers will be exposed to the inevitable (and quite visible) return swing of the density and manipulation pendulum and will cut teeth on wines that speak a bit more at least of place and finesse.  Or so I hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR SHAME, DOC V!  You posit that young drinkers dislike mature wine (or rather ask why they do, therefore accepting the proposition as fact), then cite as your source &#8220;a couple of people.&#8221;  Might want to brush up on your science there doc.  </p>
<p>In any case it seems that everyone here has hit on the high points, but here are the reasons that I could see such an idea existing: a) young drinkers have no access to aged wines, b) since this generation is producing far more wine drinkers than ever before they mostly come from non-wine families, thus no cellar to inherit and no time yet to have built one&#8217;s own, c) attempts and experiments with sourcing aged wines can be inherently frustrating, expensive, and prone to extremely high rates of failure due to both storage issues and production issues, d) pure cost concerns</p>
<p>I am sure that I could think of more, but these seem to be the most relevant, with simple lack of exposure the biggest of those problems.  You may occasionally get the opinion asserted by Rachel above, of preferring very potent wines to those whose tannins have softened by age.  However, this seems far more of an issue of nascent wine drinkers than younger wine drinkers (with the two quite logically often going hand-in-hand), and so to the list we can add&#8230;</p>
<p>f) Robert Parker and his ilk have created a generation of tannin-crazed, residual sugar addicted, vino-bots who will require extensive deprogramming in the years to come.  Luckily I think the actual younger wine drinkers will be exposed to the inevitable (and quite visible) return swing of the density and manipulation pendulum and will cut teeth on wines that speak a bit more at least of place and finesse.  Or so I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: A Champagne Girl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats to the young people who benefit from their family’s cellar of perfectly stored, aged, delicious wines!  Lucky you!  For those who are young reading this who do not fall into that category: Give champagne a try! Champagnes are great food wines! and are aged by the producers before being released onto the market.  They do the proper cellar aging for us.  By French law, a non-vintage must be kept on lees, before disgorgement, for a minimum of 1.5 yrs.  Some outstanding and excellent tasting NVs are available for around $30 such as Louis Roederer’s Brut Premiere (actually kept on lees for 3+ yrs before release.) Fully ready to be enjoyed at time of purchase and most argue there’s not much improvement with additional aging.  &amp; Vintage champagnes are rqrd to be aged in cellars for 3 yrs, but the best champagne makers in fact keep their bottles on the lees for several additional years before disgorgement…  making them also ready to be enjoyed at time of purchase...  Dom Perignon for 7 to 10 yrs and Krug 6 to 20 years, just to name two.  Naturally, this storage/aging time will be incorporated into the price, but at least you can have confidence you will get a properly aged wine with fabulous taste, with few exceptions. While expensive, vintage champagnes are more readily available than other aged wines and those aging risks have been greatly minimized, because they’ve been taken care of by the producers.  Salut!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to the young people who benefit from their family’s cellar of perfectly stored, aged, delicious wines!  Lucky you!  For those who are young reading this who do not fall into that category: Give champagne a try! Champagnes are great food wines! and are aged by the producers before being released onto the market.  They do the proper cellar aging for us.  By French law, a non-vintage must be kept on lees, before disgorgement, for a minimum of 1.5 yrs.  Some outstanding and excellent tasting NVs are available for around $30 such as Louis Roederer’s Brut Premiere (actually kept on lees for 3+ yrs before release.) Fully ready to be enjoyed at time of purchase and most argue there’s not much improvement with additional aging.  &amp; Vintage champagnes are rqrd to be aged in cellars for 3 yrs, but the best champagne makers in fact keep their bottles on the lees for several additional years before disgorgement…  making them also ready to be enjoyed at time of purchase&#8230;  Dom Perignon for 7 to 10 yrs and Krug 6 to 20 years, just to name two.  Naturally, this storage/aging time will be incorporated into the price, but at least you can have confidence you will get a properly aged wine with fabulous taste, with few exceptions. While expensive, vintage champagnes are more readily available than other aged wines and those aging risks have been greatly minimized, because they’ve been taken care of by the producers.  Salut!</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps its a societal thing why people make the assumption that we younger wine drinkers don&#039;t like aged wines. My generation has the misfortune of being called the instant gratification generation or the now generation. Why wait to drink a wine in 10-15-20 years when I can have wine now! I don&#039;t necessarily agree with this, though I do believe that it is true in some cases. As Rachel mentioned, todays wines are made to &quot;punch you in the face&quot; and while I do enjoy a good punch to the face from time to time, my problem with older wines is time and money. I started cellaring wines around 10 years ago and have some great examples of late 90s early 2000&#039;s Brunello&#039;s, Barollo&#039;s and Barbaresco that have only started to come into maturity. It takes time for these great age worthy wines to reach their full potential, so a lot of younger people like myself who are cellaring their wines, just haven;t had the chance to drink them as of yet. And while I do have a couple older vintages, I don&#039;t have a whole lot of them. This is mainly because they are expensive, and as a student I wasn&#039;t able to afford buying a case of age-worthy wines, which cost considerably more than a drink-today wine. Perhaps we should also be pointing the finger at winemakers who create wines that are very good to drink early from varietals that were once considered to be wines made to be aged. I don&#039;t see this as a problem as long as these wines that can be consumed early are still able to be aged, and show even more complexity in their teens and twentys than in their youth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps its a societal thing why people make the assumption that we younger wine drinkers don&#8217;t like aged wines. My generation has the misfortune of being called the instant gratification generation or the now generation. Why wait to drink a wine in 10-15-20 years when I can have wine now! I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with this, though I do believe that it is true in some cases. As Rachel mentioned, todays wines are made to &#8220;punch you in the face&#8221; and while I do enjoy a good punch to the face from time to time, my problem with older wines is time and money. I started cellaring wines around 10 years ago and have some great examples of late 90s early 2000&#8242;s Brunello&#8217;s, Barollo&#8217;s and Barbaresco that have only started to come into maturity. It takes time for these great age worthy wines to reach their full potential, so a lot of younger people like myself who are cellaring their wines, just haven;t had the chance to drink them as of yet. And while I do have a couple older vintages, I don&#8217;t have a whole lot of them. This is mainly because they are expensive, and as a student I wasn&#8217;t able to afford buying a case of age-worthy wines, which cost considerably more than a drink-today wine. Perhaps we should also be pointing the finger at winemakers who create wines that are very good to drink early from varietals that were once considered to be wines made to be aged. I don&#8217;t see this as a problem as long as these wines that can be consumed early are still able to be aged, and show even more complexity in their teens and twentys than in their youth.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/10/07/in-praise-mature-old-wine/#comment-313606</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is my curse or my blessing, depending on your point of view, that I have collected far too much old wine over my three decades plus of writing about wine. I guess some of it simply goes with the territory, and I accept it as such.

Still with more wine than I will possibly ever drink up, I am blessed and cursed with this enormous list of older wines from which I am able to pull rare bottles on interesting occasions.

Two that thrilled recently were 1975 Heitz Martha&#039;s Vineyard tasted from magnum and drinking perfectly. The &#039;74 Marths&#039;s is justifiably considered one of the finest CA wines in the last fifty years, but the &#039;75, while lighter, has a nice elegant quality, and this wine that was very good on its own, was simply spectacular along side a slab of medium-rare roast beef au jus. Not a hint of over age and plenty of nuance that came out with the food.

The other wine of note recently was Beaulieu  Private Res 1970. This wine was my first ever case purchase and I was lucky enough, or silly enough, to add a bit to that at the cost of $8 a bottle. I still have several left, and when I pulled one out for a dinner of West Coast blogger types, it was beginning to show a bit of a tired edge. But here is the thing. If what is required is primary fruit, then aging wine to forty years is a waste of space and electricity. But, if part of the joy is being able to know old friends across their many twists and turns, then this no longer perfect wine was still very special. It certainly had not died. It just was no longer fruity or juicy. And, by the way, very few Bordeaux &#039;70s, a vintage that was considered the best of the decade over there, have outlasted this wine.

Just a couple of other comments. Tasted CA and WA Merlots, 1994 to 1997, the other day. Expected the 94s to show poorly because they were so fruit forward when young. No such problem. They were layered, rich, still had some primary fruit (Duncan Wilcox&#039;s girlfriend would have approved) yet had become fairly sophisticated. The 97s, at higher alcohols, were not as good but, at 13 years old, were still hanging in there. 

All of which leads me to this. We hear a lot of anxiety (and some moaning) about the change in CA wines and how the new breed will not age. Funny thing is that we heard the same complaint with the CA Cabs of the 1970s. The Paris tasting of 1976 was decried by the very French tasters who chose those CA wines first because &quot;they were so much easier to taste when young, but they won&#039;t age&quot;. Well, they have aged perfectly well--as so many comments above confirm. The same thing is going to happen to the balanced wines of the past decade. Out of balance wines never aged well. Balanced wines, and most highly regarded Napa Valley Cabs are pretty well-balanced, are also going to age well despite having moved up a point or so in alcohol level. A little less gnashing of teeth is in order re the aging of those wines simply because we have been down this road before and have proven that balanced Cabs from a top provenance age well.

The same will be true for CA Chards. The Rameys, DuMols, Hudsons, Marimars, Gary Farrells are going to age well. We have ten years of experience with those wines at higher alcohols. They are not falling apart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my curse or my blessing, depending on your point of view, that I have collected far too much old wine over my three decades plus of writing about wine. I guess some of it simply goes with the territory, and I accept it as such.</p>
<p>Still with more wine than I will possibly ever drink up, I am blessed and cursed with this enormous list of older wines from which I am able to pull rare bottles on interesting occasions.</p>
<p>Two that thrilled recently were 1975 Heitz Martha&#8217;s Vineyard tasted from magnum and drinking perfectly. The &#8217;74 Marths&#8217;s is justifiably considered one of the finest CA wines in the last fifty years, but the &#8217;75, while lighter, has a nice elegant quality, and this wine that was very good on its own, was simply spectacular along side a slab of medium-rare roast beef au jus. Not a hint of over age and plenty of nuance that came out with the food.</p>
<p>The other wine of note recently was Beaulieu  Private Res 1970. This wine was my first ever case purchase and I was lucky enough, or silly enough, to add a bit to that at the cost of $8 a bottle. I still have several left, and when I pulled one out for a dinner of West Coast blogger types, it was beginning to show a bit of a tired edge. But here is the thing. If what is required is primary fruit, then aging wine to forty years is a waste of space and electricity. But, if part of the joy is being able to know old friends across their many twists and turns, then this no longer perfect wine was still very special. It certainly had not died. It just was no longer fruity or juicy. And, by the way, very few Bordeaux &#8217;70s, a vintage that was considered the best of the decade over there, have outlasted this wine.</p>
<p>Just a couple of other comments. Tasted CA and WA Merlots, 1994 to 1997, the other day. Expected the 94s to show poorly because they were so fruit forward when young. No such problem. They were layered, rich, still had some primary fruit (Duncan Wilcox&#8217;s girlfriend would have approved) yet had become fairly sophisticated. The 97s, at higher alcohols, were not as good but, at 13 years old, were still hanging in there. </p>
<p>All of which leads me to this. We hear a lot of anxiety (and some moaning) about the change in CA wines and how the new breed will not age. Funny thing is that we heard the same complaint with the CA Cabs of the 1970s. The Paris tasting of 1976 was decried by the very French tasters who chose those CA wines first because &#8220;they were so much easier to taste when young, but they won&#8217;t age&#8221;. Well, they have aged perfectly well&#8211;as so many comments above confirm. The same thing is going to happen to the balanced wines of the past decade. Out of balance wines never aged well. Balanced wines, and most highly regarded Napa Valley Cabs are pretty well-balanced, are also going to age well despite having moved up a point or so in alcohol level. A little less gnashing of teeth is in order re the aging of those wines simply because we have been down this road before and have proven that balanced Cabs from a top provenance age well.</p>
<p>The same will be true for CA Chards. The Rameys, DuMols, Hudsons, Marimars, Gary Farrells are going to age well. We have ten years of experience with those wines at higher alcohols. They are not falling apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Nichols</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/10/07/in-praise-mature-old-wine/#comment-313602</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you.  The current releases of Nichols wines are 2000 and 2001.  Nichols Winery ages its wines several years in the barrels and give his wines at least 5 to 6 years in the bottle before they are released.
keith@nicholswinery.com
Website www.nicholswinery.com
Website web.mac.com/knicholsca/iWeb
310-305-0397 Cell 310-904-3061]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  The current releases of Nichols wines are 2000 and 2001.  Nichols Winery ages its wines several years in the barrels and give his wines at least 5 to 6 years in the bottle before they are released.<br />
<a href="mailto:keith@nicholswinery.com" class="limailto">keith@nicholswinery.com</a><br />
Website <a href="http://www.nicholswinery.com" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.nicholswinery.com</a><br />
Website web.mac.com/knicholsca/iWeb<br />
310-305-0397 Cell 310-904-3061</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Young</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/10/07/in-praise-mature-old-wine/#comment-313592</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Daniel: Funny you should mention Hanzell Chard. My first old white was in a vertical of Hanzell I was lucky enough to sit in on while I worked at the &#039;Tator (mid &#039;90s)... The 1966 was Awesome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel: Funny you should mention Hanzell Chard. My first old white was in a vertical of Hanzell I was lucky enough to sit in on while I worked at the &#8216;Tator (mid &#8217;90s)&#8230; The 1966 was Awesome!</p>
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