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	<title>Comments on: Maryland wine shipping rides a wave of support&#8211;and pessimism</title>
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		<title>By: Handyman</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-298559</link>
		<dc:creator>Handyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the sensible critique. Me &amp; my neighbour were preparing to do some research about that. We got a good book on that matter from our local library and most books where not as influensive as your information. I am very glad to see such information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the sensible critique. Me &amp; my neighbour were preparing to do some research about that. We got a good book on that matter from our local library and most books where not as influensive as your information. I am very glad to see such information!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296953</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A WaPo blog states that Sen. Conway&#039;s committee will hold hearings on this issue on 3/17. 

Let&#039;s hope there&#039;s a good turnout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A WaPo blog states that Sen. Conway&#8217;s committee will hold hearings on this issue on 3/17. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope there&#8217;s a good turnout!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296866</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tom - Nice, maybe there are some BYOB restaurants in Annapolis and it could be a fun event afterward for MD wine enthusiasts! 

@ Mike - wow, an out-of-stater buying from PA? Harrisburg would be delighted to hear that. 

@ Tone - yes, it would be great if the bill got a vocal champion in the legislature!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tom &#8211; Nice, maybe there are some BYOB restaurants in Annapolis and it could be a fun event afterward for MD wine enthusiasts! </p>
<p>@ Mike &#8211; wow, an out-of-stater buying from PA? Harrisburg would be delighted to hear that. </p>
<p>@ Tone &#8211; yes, it would be great if the bill got a vocal champion in the legislature!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack O'C</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack O'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Vino/Tom,

Thanks for the response!  I agree that it should be easier (and likely cheaper) to affect change through the legislative process.  I was merely wondering if anyone had information regarding alternative routes of reform.

Hopefully MD legislators are finally responsive to the will of the people!

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Vino/Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for the response!  I agree that it should be easier (and likely cheaper) to affect change through the legislative process.  I was merely wondering if anyone had information regarding alternative routes of reform.</p>
<p>Hopefully MD legislators are finally responsive to the will of the people!</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Tone Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296857</link>
		<dc:creator>Tone Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few communications bullets.
1. Let the legistators know that they will be buying their wine out of state rather than in state.  Tell the distributors the same thing.

2.  Iowa got out of the high control business about 20 years ago and as a conservative state it had very, very few problems.  If Iowa can do this, then Maryland should be able to do so.

3. Pick a few legislative districts and make a real strong push to get a legislator to sign a pledge to support the effort.  Then if that works, start going after others.  The snowball effect will scare some more to break their position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few communications bullets.<br />
1. Let the legistators know that they will be buying their wine out of state rather than in state.  Tell the distributors the same thing.</p>
<p>2.  Iowa got out of the high control business about 20 years ago and as a conservative state it had very, very few problems.  If Iowa can do this, then Maryland should be able to do so.</p>
<p>3. Pick a few legislative districts and make a real strong push to get a legislator to sign a pledge to support the effort.  Then if that works, start going after others.  The snowball effect will scare some more to break their position.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296856</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution to this is simple if the entrenched distributers continue to live in 1823: I refuse to buy liquor from any Maryland liquor store or restaurant or bar. 

I buy from PA, VA, and DC and other states while on holiday.

Maybe others can do the same too?

Why should our tax dollars and votes go to support politicians who do not heed the wishes of the citizens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution to this is simple if the entrenched distributers continue to live in 1823: I refuse to buy liquor from any Maryland liquor store or restaurant or bar. </p>
<p>I buy from PA, VA, and DC and other states while on holiday.</p>
<p>Maybe others can do the same too?</p>
<p>Why should our tax dollars and votes go to support politicians who do not heed the wishes of the citizens?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Wark</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296855</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Wark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack:

There is no conventional court challenge to be had in Maryland. Maryland&#039;s approach to direct shipping does not discriminate—which has been the criteria for court challenges to this point. Maryland&#039;s direct shipping laws treat in-state and out-of-state entities the same.

The answer is simply to change the law. And frankly, I think this is probably the easier and least expensive and time consuming route.

What needs to happen is to have consumers write and visit their lawmakers regularly. This is why if I were in charge of the effort in Maryland, I would be organizing trips to Annapolis by consumers on a monthly basis to put them in front of legislators to tell them what they want, why they want it and when they want it and what the consequences would be if they don&#039;t get it. 

Pressure needs to be applied.

Best,
Tom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:</p>
<p>There is no conventional court challenge to be had in Maryland. Maryland&#8217;s approach to direct shipping does not discriminate—which has been the criteria for court challenges to this point. Maryland&#8217;s direct shipping laws treat in-state and out-of-state entities the same.</p>
<p>The answer is simply to change the law. And frankly, I think this is probably the easier and least expensive and time consuming route.</p>
<p>What needs to happen is to have consumers write and visit their lawmakers regularly. This is why if I were in charge of the effort in Maryland, I would be organizing trips to Annapolis by consumers on a monthly basis to put them in front of legislators to tell them what they want, why they want it and when they want it and what the consequences would be if they don&#8217;t get it. </p>
<p>Pressure needs to be applied.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Tom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296850</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - 

I&#039;m not sure about the legal route to reform. Given that MBBWL just lost their executive director, perhaps Tom Wark could let us know about feasibility of a court challenge? 

I imagine it is cost-prohibitive. It&#039;s hard to get consumers to rally to the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack &#8211; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the legal route to reform. Given that MBBWL just lost their executive director, perhaps Tom Wark could let us know about feasibility of a court challenge? </p>
<p>I imagine it is cost-prohibitive. It&#8217;s hard to get consumers to rally to the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack O'C</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack O'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Vino,

I have to ask this question: has anyone challenged Maryland&#039;s current law as unconstitutional under the commerce clause? 

Based on what I&#039;ve read here, it seems readily apparent to me (a 3rd year law student) that this law impedes the free flow of commerce between the states.  

I confess that I haven&#039;t read the law itself, nor have I researched beyond what you&#039;ve posted here.  But it still seems like a court challenge, while expensive and time-consuming, might be a better path at this point than seeking legislative relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Vino,</p>
<p>I have to ask this question: has anyone challenged Maryland&#8217;s current law as unconstitutional under the commerce clause? </p>
<p>Based on what I&#8217;ve read here, it seems readily apparent to me (a 3rd year law student) that this law impedes the free flow of commerce between the states.  </p>
<p>I confess that I haven&#8217;t read the law itself, nor have I researched beyond what you&#8217;ve posted here.  But it still seems like a court challenge, while expensive and time-consuming, might be a better path at this point than seeking legislative relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296848</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe those legislators that oppose moving forward should not be voted back into office.  Politicians are not &quot;For the People&quot;.  They&#039;re for big business and whatever or whoever can make them the most money and keep them in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe those legislators that oppose moving forward should not be voted back into office.  Politicians are not &#8220;For the People&#8221;.  They&#8217;re for big business and whatever or whoever can make them the most money and keep them in office.</p>
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		<title>By: chris robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296809</link>
		<dc:creator>chris robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez guys sorry to hear some of you are forced to live in the 18th century over there!  This is absolute nonsense.  Meanwhile in duty free Hong Kong ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez guys sorry to hear some of you are forced to live in the 18th century over there!  This is absolute nonsense.  Meanwhile in duty free Hong Kong &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296807</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Wark posts on the frustration of testifying in Annapolis, MD 

http://bit.ly/9YMWvO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Wark posts on the frustration of testifying in Annapolis, MD </p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/9YMWvO" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://bit.ly/9YMWvO</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296793</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to say I agree with Josh that it really has no chance.  They have tons of delegates on board, but the two committee heads are entrenched.  

The enthusiasm is unparalleled, though.  Hats off to MBBWL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to say I agree with Josh that it really has no chance.  They have tons of delegates on board, but the two committee heads are entrenched.  </p>
<p>The enthusiasm is unparalleled, though.  Hats off to MBBWL.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296791</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who can should buy all their alcohol out of state...clearly this is a racket perpetuated by the corrupt politicians within Maryland...even the &quot;pro-business&quot; republicans go along with this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who can should buy all their alcohol out of state&#8230;clearly this is a racket perpetuated by the corrupt politicians within Maryland&#8230;even the &#8220;pro-business&#8221; republicans go along with this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/03/08/maryland-wine-shipping-support-pessimism/#comment-296789</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will. Never. Pass.

Second against the wall come the revolution: the liquor lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will. Never. Pass.</p>
<p>Second against the wall come the revolution: the liquor lobby.</p>
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