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		<title>By: jesse james woodworking</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Calera&#8217;s informative back label &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calera&#8217;s informative back label &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] story, cheesy adjectives, mentions of &#8220;handcrafted&#8220;: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ron McFarland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ron McFrland and @ David - Sure, handcrafted may mean something to you but it&#039;s bordering on cliche. As Cathy Corison tweeted in response to this post: &quot;Following in the footsteps of &quot;premium&quot;, &quot;reserve&quot;, &quot;boutique&quot;?&quot; And &quot;luxury&quot; used to mean something too.

So a question to you, for the sake of discussion: if handcrafted means &quot;natural&quot; (and it may well not), then why don&#039;t those producers push for mandatory ingredient labeling? They would have nothing to put on the back label but &quot;grapes and sulfur.&quot; But that&#039;s not the case for everyone. It would certainly be a step toward moving back labels away from cliches.

The wine cliches are not only limited to handcrafted - here are a few more - artisan - small production - boutique - family - authentic - sure your readers will pick up the ones I missed.

I am in favor of disclosing the ingredients &amp; cases produced on the back label - most consumers would be surprised and appalled to see a list of additives that read like the back of a twinkie package. 

Great consumer article several years ago in LA Times about wine additives - down right scary. 

So yes, if you are lobbying for more disclosure about what goes into the bottle - I am with you.

I also think it would be a good discussion for those members in groups like Family Wine Makers in California to share what these potential cliche words mean to them. 

I also believe these words to be honorable and justified in use - just no way to know without lots of research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ron McFrland and @ David &#8211; Sure, handcrafted may mean something to you but it&#8217;s bordering on cliche. As Cathy Corison tweeted in response to this post: &#8220;Following in the footsteps of &#8220;premium&#8221;, &#8220;reserve&#8221;, &#8220;boutique&#8221;?&#8221; And &#8220;luxury&#8221; used to mean something too.</p>
<p>So a question to you, for the sake of discussion: if handcrafted means &#8220;natural&#8221; (and it may well not), then why don&#8217;t those producers push for mandatory ingredient labeling? They would have nothing to put on the back label but &#8220;grapes and sulfur.&#8221; But that&#8217;s not the case for everyone. It would certainly be a step toward moving back labels away from cliches.</p>
<p>The wine cliches are not only limited to handcrafted &#8211; here are a few more &#8211; artisan &#8211; small production &#8211; boutique &#8211; family &#8211; authentic &#8211; sure your readers will pick up the ones I missed.</p>
<p>I am in favor of disclosing the ingredients &amp; cases produced on the back label &#8211; most consumers would be surprised and appalled to see a list of additives that read like the back of a twinkie package. </p>
<p>Great consumer article several years ago in LA Times about wine additives &#8211; down right scary. </p>
<p>So yes, if you are lobbying for more disclosure about what goes into the bottle &#8211; I am with you.</p>
<p>I also think it would be a good discussion for those members in groups like Family Wine Makers in California to share what these potential cliche words mean to them. </p>
<p>I also believe these words to be honorable and justified in use &#8211; just no way to know without lots of research.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2010/01/14/back-label-watch-handcrafted/#comment-295051</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ron McFrland and @ David - Sure, handcrafted may mean something to you but it&#039;s bordering on cliche. As Cathy Corison tweeted in response to this post: &quot;Following in the footsteps of &quot;premium&quot;, &quot;reserve&quot;, &quot;boutique&quot;?&quot; And &quot;luxury&quot; used to mean something too.

So a question to you, for the sake of discussion: if handcrafted means &quot;natural&quot; (and it may well not), then why don&#039;t those producers push for mandatory ingredient labeling? They would have nothing to put on the back label but &quot;grapes and sulfur.&quot; But that&#039;s not the case for everyone. It would certainly be a step toward moving back labels away from cliches.

And to all: don&#039;t forget to see our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drvino.com/2010/01/15/wine-information-back-label/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;broader discussion of back labels&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ron McFrland and @ David &#8211; Sure, handcrafted may mean something to you but it&#8217;s bordering on cliche. As Cathy Corison tweeted in response to this post: &#8220;Following in the footsteps of &#8220;premium&#8221;, &#8220;reserve&#8221;, &#8220;boutique&#8221;?&#8221; And &#8220;luxury&#8221; used to mean something too.</p>
<p>So a question to you, for the sake of discussion: if handcrafted means &#8220;natural&#8221; (and it may well not), then why don&#8217;t those producers push for mandatory ingredient labeling? They would have nothing to put on the back label but &#8220;grapes and sulfur.&#8221; But that&#8217;s not the case for everyone. It would certainly be a step toward moving back labels away from cliches.</p>
<p>And to all: don&#8217;t forget to see our <a href="http://www.drvino.com/2010/01/15/wine-information-back-label/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">broader discussion of back labels</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info. Even with that range, it&#039;s still useful to have. My weeknight drinking is nearly always limited to under 14 percent, with 13.5 percent and under preferred. My reason: I want two 5 oz. glasses and that amount at high alcohol leaves me a little buzzed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. Even with that range, it&#8217;s still useful to have. My weeknight drinking is nearly always limited to under 14 percent, with 13.5 percent and under preferred. My reason: I want two 5 oz. glasses and that amount at high alcohol leaves me a little buzzed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Burt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, 

In the case of wines that contain more than 14% alc by volume, 1% point of wiggle room is allowed. So if a wine has 14.9% on the label, the actual alcohol content can be anywhere between 14 and 15.9%. That is a big difference and wineries tend to understate their alcohol content. 

The stated percentage must be within 0.5% of the actual in the case of exported wine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>In the case of wines that contain more than 14% alc by volume, 1% point of wiggle room is allowed. So if a wine has 14.9% on the label, the actual alcohol content can be anywhere between 14 and 15.9%. That is a big difference and wineries tend to understate their alcohol content. </p>
<p>The stated percentage must be within 0.5% of the actual in the case of exported wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,

Interesting about alc%. How/why are they fudged? Why especially in pinots? 

I admit I don&#039;t know much about this, but I&#039;ve had a few &quot;oh, wow, that&#039;s good!&quot; moments drinking high-alc% Italian reds. It seems to have an impact on the style of the wine.

As I posted in the comments of the other &quot;back label&quot; post, I shouldn&#039;t say &quot;tasting notes&quot; or &quot;pairing notes&quot; - poor choice of phrases on my part. But I do want &quot;style&quot; notes and notes that suggest how the wine might be enjoyed.

Think about me browsing alone through a shop looking for wine to serve tonight and for the rest of the week. What info do I want the moment I pick up a bottle to look at?

Anyway I think there should be SOME accounting for taste!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Interesting about alc%. How/why are they fudged? Why especially in pinots? </p>
<p>I admit I don&#8217;t know much about this, but I&#8217;ve had a few &#8220;oh, wow, that&#8217;s good!&#8221; moments drinking high-alc% Italian reds. It seems to have an impact on the style of the wine.</p>
<p>As I posted in the comments of the other &#8220;back label&#8221; post, I shouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;tasting notes&#8221; or &#8220;pairing notes&#8221; &#8211; poor choice of phrases on my part. But I do want &#8220;style&#8221; notes and notes that suggest how the wine might be enjoyed.</p>
<p>Think about me browsing alone through a shop looking for wine to serve tonight and for the rest of the week. What info do I want the moment I pick up a bottle to look at?</p>
<p>Anyway I think there should be SOME accounting for taste!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Burt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing I really like that is on that NZ label is that the &quot;Standard Drinks&quot; in the bottle is mentioned. I believe that this is a legal requirement in NZ and the UK. It would be really nice to have this sort of standardized system in the US so that we can monitor our alcohol consumption. This is even more important because there are so many 15%+ wines on the shelves (marked as 14.5% of course). 

Most of the other information people put on label is pretty meaningless. There are plenty of wines out there with wonderful stories on the label but the fact of the matter is that thee wines are made of plonk purchased from the bulk market. Mostly, this info is geared toward trying to get a sale from a casual consumer where a cheap thrill and a nice story wins. There is nothing wrong with that, but talk is cheap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I really like that is on that NZ label is that the &#8220;Standard Drinks&#8221; in the bottle is mentioned. I believe that this is a legal requirement in NZ and the UK. It would be really nice to have this sort of standardized system in the US so that we can monitor our alcohol consumption. This is even more important because there are so many 15%+ wines on the shelves (marked as 14.5% of course). </p>
<p>Most of the other information people put on label is pretty meaningless. There are plenty of wines out there with wonderful stories on the label but the fact of the matter is that thee wines are made of plonk purchased from the bulk market. Mostly, this info is geared toward trying to get a sale from a casual consumer where a cheap thrill and a nice story wins. There is nothing wrong with that, but talk is cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a wine industry veteran, and a real-wine guy (a dying breed?) and I was recently having dinner with a winery owner of &quot;hand-crafted&quot; wines that called her winery a &quot;plant&quot;--and almost choked on my ceviche.  Regarding labels, I advise clients to lighten up on the tasting notes and use that space on a label to say something about the grape origin and/or the vineyard site.  Wine is an expression of place, on several levels, and is what speaks most to me.  It is actually terrific reading these responses and hearing so many consumers de-classifying the flavor profiling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a wine industry veteran, and a real-wine guy (a dying breed?) and I was recently having dinner with a winery owner of &#8220;hand-crafted&#8221; wines that called her winery a &#8220;plant&#8221;&#8211;and almost choked on my ceviche.  Regarding labels, I advise clients to lighten up on the tasting notes and use that space on a label to say something about the grape origin and/or the vineyard site.  Wine is an expression of place, on several levels, and is what speaks most to me.  It is actually terrific reading these responses and hearing so many consumers de-classifying the flavor profiling.</p>
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		<title>By: David Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We eschewed (love the chance to use that word)back-label prose for more than two decades. Then it came time to write some. Yikes! Alcohol--wow, does that get fudged a lot, esp. in Pinot Noir. Pairing notes--well, I believe the &#039;no accounting for taste&#039; dictum. Flavor description--tough to convey meaningful information, yet necessary.Drinkability prediction--see the &#039;no accounting for taste&#039; dictum. BTW, NZ label is DQed for use of &quot;perfect&quot; in describing their own wine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We eschewed (love the chance to use that word)back-label prose for more than two decades. Then it came time to write some. Yikes! Alcohol&#8211;wow, does that get fudged a lot, esp. in Pinot Noir. Pairing notes&#8211;well, I believe the &#8216;no accounting for taste&#8217; dictum. Flavor description&#8211;tough to convey meaningful information, yet necessary.Drinkability prediction&#8211;see the &#8216;no accounting for taste&#8217; dictum. BTW, NZ label is DQed for use of &#8220;perfect&#8221; in describing their own wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are those hand-crafted wines or hand-crafted barrels?

I don&#039;t know, hand-crafted doesn&#039;t mean anything to me on a wine. Anyone can use the phrase.

Maybe you could be more specific - put stuff on your bottles that the big producers can&#039;t put without getting called out. Equipment used, names of the individuals who picked the grapes, etc.

&quot;My dog Ralf and I picked the grapes between 3am and 9am Sunday morning 9/6/09. It was cold, but we beat the rain (just!). 85% of grapes were mature, and we chose the best 50% of our harvest for this wine. After poached eggs and Alpo for breakfast, we put on our boots and mashed the grapes. Ralf slept in the fermentation room for the next 8 days. I filtered the wine into 3 hand-crafted, lightly used French oak barrels (recently acquired from a neighbor). No pumps were used. Ralf moved his bed to the barrel room where the wine aged for the next 5 months. (Ralf&#039;s bed is a half-barrel with a pillow inside given to him by the man who purchased our very first case of wine seven years ago. Thanks, Bob!)&quot;

To answer the question, though, here&#039;s what I *need* to see on a label, the more expensive the wine the more of these I want to see:

1) Alcohol content and grapes used
2) Pairing notes
3) Tasting notes
4) Grape sources (vineyards, locations, etc)
5) Future drinkability prediction

With that info, I can pick a wine quickly for any purpose. If I want to spend more time, I&#039;ll talk to the wine guy at the store.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are those hand-crafted wines or hand-crafted barrels?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, hand-crafted doesn&#8217;t mean anything to me on a wine. Anyone can use the phrase.</p>
<p>Maybe you could be more specific &#8211; put stuff on your bottles that the big producers can&#8217;t put without getting called out. Equipment used, names of the individuals who picked the grapes, etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;My dog Ralf and I picked the grapes between 3am and 9am Sunday morning 9/6/09. It was cold, but we beat the rain (just!). 85% of grapes were mature, and we chose the best 50% of our harvest for this wine. After poached eggs and Alpo for breakfast, we put on our boots and mashed the grapes. Ralf slept in the fermentation room for the next 8 days. I filtered the wine into 3 hand-crafted, lightly used French oak barrels (recently acquired from a neighbor). No pumps were used. Ralf moved his bed to the barrel room where the wine aged for the next 5 months. (Ralf&#8217;s bed is a half-barrel with a pillow inside given to him by the man who purchased our very first case of wine seven years ago. Thanks, Bob!)&#8221;</p>
<p>To answer the question, though, here&#8217;s what I *need* to see on a label, the more expensive the wine the more of these I want to see:</p>
<p>1) Alcohol content and grapes used<br />
2) Pairing notes<br />
3) Tasting notes<br />
4) Grape sources (vineyards, locations, etc)<br />
5) Future drinkability prediction</p>
<p>With that info, I can pick a wine quickly for any purpose. If I want to spend more time, I&#8217;ll talk to the wine guy at the store.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have been in a Gallo plant(notice I said &quot;plant&quot; not winery) and also visited a 2,500 case producing winery you will better understand why some choose to use &quot;handcrafted&quot;.  Overused, yes. Meaningless, no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have been in a Gallo plant(notice I said &#8220;plant&#8221; not winery) and also visited a 2,500 case producing winery you will better understand why some choose to use &#8220;handcrafted&#8221;.  Overused, yes. Meaningless, no.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron McFarland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Words have different meanings to different people. Handcrafted implies a higher level of care in the process of making wine. Some honor the historical traditions and other use the word exclusively for marketing purposes.

It is true consumers are challenged to truly know what goes on behind the scenes. The video &amp; photos below shows the different type of care that winemakers use.


http://nocookiecutterwines.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/the-technology-of-wine/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words have different meanings to different people. Handcrafted implies a higher level of care in the process of making wine. Some honor the historical traditions and other use the word exclusively for marketing purposes.</p>
<p>It is true consumers are challenged to truly know what goes on behind the scenes. The video &amp; photos below shows the different type of care that winemakers use.</p>
<p><a href="http://nocookiecutterwines.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/the-technology-of-wine/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://nocookiecutterwines.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/the-technology-of-wine/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A reader just sent in this detailed label from New Zealand:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.drvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nz_backlabel.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;nz_backlabel.jpg&quot; title=&quot;nz_backlabel&quot; width=&quot;420&quot; height=&quot;332&quot; class=&quot;alignnone size-full wp-image-5886&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader just sent in this detailed label from New Zealand:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.drvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nz_backlabel.jpg" alt="nz_backlabel.jpg" title="nz_backlabel" width="420" height="332" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5886" /></p>
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