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	<title>Comments on: Time to belly up to the barcode? [scanners]</title>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-371067</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any new updates in the world of creating an inventory system for a large collection? Technology has changed so much in the past few years. Is there an app to read upcs or homemade barcodes for creting a personal inventory system?
Please advise. Looking to invest in a method soon.
L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any new updates in the world of creating an inventory system for a large collection? Technology has changed so much in the past few years. Is there an app to read upcs or homemade barcodes for creting a personal inventory system?<br />
Please advise. Looking to invest in a method soon.<br />
L</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-295385</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a nice unique code like the AVIN http://avin.cc would really make all this much easier. 

Feel free to contact me if you want to learn how! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a nice unique code like the AVIN <a href="http://avin.cc" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://avin.cc</a> would really make all this much easier. </p>
<p>Feel free to contact me if you want to learn how! <img src='http://www.drvino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: What do you want on a back label? &#124; Dr Vino&#39;s wine blog</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-294887</link>
		<dc:creator>What do you want on a back label? &#124; Dr Vino&#39;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] all on his labels and that the FDA may push all producers in that direction. And don&#8217;t forget barcodes! So here it is, an omnibus thread for all your back label venting/discussion [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all on his labels and that the FDA may push all producers in that direction. And don&#8217;t forget barcodes! So here it is, an omnibus thread for all your back label venting/discussion [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Best Wine Blog Posts for November 16th through December 31st &#124; Winecast</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-294432</link>
		<dc:creator>Best Wine Blog Posts for November 16th through December 31st &#124; Winecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Time to belly up to the barcode? [scanners] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-294317</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While keeping an organized and accurate list of your cellar is key, keep in mind that many small production wines will not offer a bar code.  Often artisan producers in Europe and even here in the U.S. are more concerned with producing the finest wines possible than they are with staying current with the latest trends in technology.  It is a cirtual certainty that large scale industrial products will have a barcode, but we should not discount or even ignore wines that do not for sake of convenience.  In our fast paced app-based world, sometimes taking a little extra time can pay off in a wonderful product]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While keeping an organized and accurate list of your cellar is key, keep in mind that many small production wines will not offer a bar code.  Often artisan producers in Europe and even here in the U.S. are more concerned with producing the finest wines possible than they are with staying current with the latest trends in technology.  It is a cirtual certainty that large scale industrial products will have a barcode, but we should not discount or even ignore wines that do not for sake of convenience.  In our fast paced app-based world, sometimes taking a little extra time can pay off in a wonderful product</p>
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		<title>By: La linea dell'inutile (Mauro)</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293920</link>
		<dc:creator>La linea dell'inutile (Mauro)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No other tools to keep in the pocket once I already have a smartphone please. So go on with applications for smartphones.

It can be a totally new way to buy wine, it will take some time but QR-code readers on smartphones (instead of standard bar code) is the future ... if not RFID.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No other tools to keep in the pocket once I already have a smartphone please. So go on with applications for smartphones.</p>
<p>It can be a totally new way to buy wine, it will take some time but QR-code readers on smartphones (instead of standard bar code) is the future &#8230; if not RFID.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bjork</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bjork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I learned the hard way that a winery with distribution into national chains can&#039;t change the UPC barcode from one vintage to the next.

Coming from an manufacturing background, I wanted to change the UPC for each product with each bottling, so I could have some lot control for quality assurance.

Not long afterward I got a call from angry sales reps that said we were jeopardizing our coveted bottle positions on retailer shelves because the bottles no longer scanned and they go through a process to get the new UPC codes entered into the corporate servers.

So I never changed a barcode with a new vintage again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned the hard way that a winery with distribution into national chains can&#8217;t change the UPC barcode from one vintage to the next.</p>
<p>Coming from an manufacturing background, I wanted to change the UPC for each product with each bottling, so I could have some lot control for quality assurance.</p>
<p>Not long afterward I got a call from angry sales reps that said we were jeopardizing our coveted bottle positions on retailer shelves because the bottles no longer scanned and they go through a process to get the new UPC codes entered into the corporate servers.</p>
<p>So I never changed a barcode with a new vintage again!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Scandariato</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293833</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Scandariato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tyler --

A few comments and a number of inaccuracies in your article I wanted to point out.

IntelliScanner is based on the premise of a stand-alone scanning device that makes it easy to scan bottles wherever they are. Rather than tapping into your phone, you connect the scanner to your computer, like a camera, and download/organize on your PC or Mac from there.

You mentioned that IntelliScanner identified most your bottles -- but didn&#039;t give you vintages. This is intentional -- wineries often reuse barcodes from year to year, so providing the vintage would not be consistently accurate. As we discuss on our web site, IntelliScanner automatically attempts the name, varietal, winery, country, type, color, and region:

http://www.intelliscanner.com/products/wine/

One of IntelliScanner&#039;s advantages is our own database of wine, all with barcodes. This database is updated with our own contributions, and we also allow users to post back bottles that weren&#039;t automatically identified for future updates. We principally rely on our own efforts to improve our wine database.

I&#039;d hardly call our software &quot;rudimentary&quot;! Our wine management software includes a wide array of features that&#039;s unmatched in other wine management products: easy list creation, statistics, a visual cellar management tool, free iPhone and web sharing tools, an integrated wine reference, and extensive reporting tools.

Your comment that our software doesn&#039;t have links to other sites isn&#039;t true -- the Web menu brings you right to wine information on the selected bottle from a variety of sources. You also claimed that you can&#039;t easily export the data: the Share menu includes options for exporting in tab-delimited, CSV, and XML formats, along with direct Send To Excel option, an HTML export for posting to your own site, and a direct publishing tool for our IntelliScanner.net service, which published a free, web and iPhone-friendly site that lets you access your wine anywhere:

http://www.intelliscanner.net/example/wine

We believe that barcode technology is the fastest, easiest way to get your wine collection organized, and have, since 2004, designed and upgraded such a solution that we believe is the best available. Each method of organizing your wine has its own strengths and weaknesses. I&#039;d encourage anyone interested in a wine organization system to take an honest look at what&#039;s available and decide what&#039;s best for them.

Tyler, I hope you&#039;ll give IntelliScanner another shot in the future. We truly believe in our product as it stands, today.

Paul Scandariato
IntelliScanner Corporation]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tyler &#8211;</p>
<p>A few comments and a number of inaccuracies in your article I wanted to point out.</p>
<p>IntelliScanner is based on the premise of a stand-alone scanning device that makes it easy to scan bottles wherever they are. Rather than tapping into your phone, you connect the scanner to your computer, like a camera, and download/organize on your PC or Mac from there.</p>
<p>You mentioned that IntelliScanner identified most your bottles &#8212; but didn&#8217;t give you vintages. This is intentional &#8212; wineries often reuse barcodes from year to year, so providing the vintage would not be consistently accurate. As we discuss on our web site, IntelliScanner automatically attempts the name, varietal, winery, country, type, color, and region:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intelliscanner.com/products/wine/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.intelliscanner.com/products/wine/</a></p>
<p>One of IntelliScanner&#8217;s advantages is our own database of wine, all with barcodes. This database is updated with our own contributions, and we also allow users to post back bottles that weren&#8217;t automatically identified for future updates. We principally rely on our own efforts to improve our wine database.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hardly call our software &#8220;rudimentary&#8221;! Our wine management software includes a wide array of features that&#8217;s unmatched in other wine management products: easy list creation, statistics, a visual cellar management tool, free iPhone and web sharing tools, an integrated wine reference, and extensive reporting tools.</p>
<p>Your comment that our software doesn&#8217;t have links to other sites isn&#8217;t true &#8212; the Web menu brings you right to wine information on the selected bottle from a variety of sources. You also claimed that you can&#8217;t easily export the data: the Share menu includes options for exporting in tab-delimited, CSV, and XML formats, along with direct Send To Excel option, an HTML export for posting to your own site, and a direct publishing tool for our IntelliScanner.net service, which published a free, web and iPhone-friendly site that lets you access your wine anywhere:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intelliscanner.net/example/wine" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.intelliscanner.net/example/wine</a></p>
<p>We believe that barcode technology is the fastest, easiest way to get your wine collection organized, and have, since 2004, designed and upgraded such a solution that we believe is the best available. Each method of organizing your wine has its own strengths and weaknesses. I&#8217;d encourage anyone interested in a wine organization system to take an honest look at what&#8217;s available and decide what&#8217;s best for them.</p>
<p>Tyler, I hope you&#8217;ll give IntelliScanner another shot in the future. We truly believe in our product as it stands, today.</p>
<p>Paul Scandariato<br />
IntelliScanner Corporation</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293824</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Accurate and timely article Tyler. Thank you. Everyone wants an improved and speedy interface for looking up wine information on their phone. Makes sense - you don&#039;t have your PC with you while at a restaurant or wine store, where you need the info.

We wrote an article on barcode scanning of wine labels, with detailed empirical results. See the article here - http://drync.com/blog/the-killer-wine-app-interface-typeahead-vs-barcodes/.

Our general conclusions were the same as presented here - that barcode scanning of wine labels is not ready for primetime (although our results were slightly closer to Jim&#039;s if you focus on US-made wines).

We do believe there are alternatives. The most promising, as Tyler says, is image recognition. This will take a while to be universally useful, because no one has a comprehensive reference database of reference labels. 

And of course there&#039;s old fashioned text entry, which can be improved greatly with some predictive typeahead/auto-fill magic. This is the path we&#039;ve taken at Drync while we wait for other solutions to &quot;get there&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accurate and timely article Tyler. Thank you. Everyone wants an improved and speedy interface for looking up wine information on their phone. Makes sense &#8211; you don&#8217;t have your PC with you while at a restaurant or wine store, where you need the info.</p>
<p>We wrote an article on barcode scanning of wine labels, with detailed empirical results. See the article here &#8211; <a href="http://drync.com/blog/the-killer-wine-app-interface-typeahead-vs-barcodes/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://drync.com/blog/the-killer-wine-app-interface-typeahead-vs-barcodes/</a>.</p>
<p>Our general conclusions were the same as presented here &#8211; that barcode scanning of wine labels is not ready for primetime (although our results were slightly closer to Jim&#8217;s if you focus on US-made wines).</p>
<p>We do believe there are alternatives. The most promising, as Tyler says, is image recognition. This will take a while to be universally useful, because no one has a comprehensive reference database of reference labels. </p>
<p>And of course there&#8217;s old fashioned text entry, which can be improved greatly with some predictive typeahead/auto-fill magic. This is the path we&#8217;ve taken at Drync while we wait for other solutions to &#8220;get there&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293810</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to pile on, but hello from another Cor.kz guy.  I wanted to note that the ability for users to add barcodes to the system is now live.  Also, I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s our bad luck that your success rate at 17% came in at the far low end of normal.  Overall, we&#039;re averaging about 58% hits, though it&#039;s interesting to look at on a per-user basis because some users average about 40%, and some average about 70%; the breakdown is based on typical price and vintage scanned.  

Thanks for trying Cor.kz, and I hope you&#039;ll give it another shot (and that the statistical gods don&#039;t play another trick on us)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to pile on, but hello from another Cor.kz guy.  I wanted to note that the ability for users to add barcodes to the system is now live.  Also, I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s our bad luck that your success rate at 17% came in at the far low end of normal.  Overall, we&#8217;re averaging about 58% hits, though it&#8217;s interesting to look at on a per-user basis because some users average about 40%, and some average about 70%; the breakdown is based on typical price and vintage scanned.  </p>
<p>Thanks for trying Cor.kz, and I hope you&#8217;ll give it another shot (and that the statistical gods don&#8217;t play another trick on us)</p>
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		<title>By: Sc</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293802</link>
		<dc:creator>Sc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you really want to do this (I think it&#039;s worth seriously considering if you have a large collection), I think you&#039;re better off adding your own barcode labels anyway. Then you don&#039;t have to worry about whether the bottle has a barcode or whether the UPC is correct and unique to that specific wine and vintage (none of which are givens, as you discovered).

A bonus is that if you generate your own barcodes, you can track each bottle individually, which makes tracking things easier if you may have multiple bottles of the same wine in different places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to do this (I think it&#8217;s worth seriously considering if you have a large collection), I think you&#8217;re better off adding your own barcode labels anyway. Then you don&#8217;t have to worry about whether the bottle has a barcode or whether the UPC is correct and unique to that specific wine and vintage (none of which are givens, as you discovered).</p>
<p>A bonus is that if you generate your own barcodes, you can track each bottle individually, which makes tracking things easier if you may have multiple bottles of the same wine in different places.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293792</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you can read about the new feature here.... http://cor.kz/bar-codes-upcs-and-wine-oh-my/

and see a pic of how it works here.... http://twitpic.com/txsz1

we are working on UI improvements, but we wanted to get this out there pronto and provide tools to help. I&#039;ve got a trip to the store planned for this weekend, going to go bottle by bottle....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can read about the new feature here&#8230;. <a href="http://cor.kz/bar-codes-upcs-and-wine-oh-my/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://cor.kz/bar-codes-upcs-and-wine-oh-my/</a></p>
<p>and see a pic of how it works here&#8230;. <a href="http://twitpic.com/txsz1" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://twitpic.com/txsz1</a></p>
<p>we are working on UI improvements, but we wanted to get this out there pronto and provide tools to help. I&#8217;ve got a trip to the store planned for this weekend, going to go bottle by bottle&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293788</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Jim. I added an update at the bottom of the posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Jim. I added an update at the bottom of the posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293787</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corkz is working on this as we speak... Right now we are testing a way for users to associate a UPC code with a wine if no results are returned via the bar code scan.

The feature should be out in a matter of days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corkz is working on this as we speak&#8230; Right now we are testing a way for users to associate a UPC code with a wine if no results are returned via the bar code scan.</p>
<p>The feature should be out in a matter of days!</p>
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		<title>By: corkdork</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/12/17/wine-cellar-software-scanners-upc-technology/#comment-293784</link>
		<dc:creator>corkdork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not surprising that the information recorded is incomplete; many wineries get a UPC for one product, and re-use it throughout various years. Since there&#039;s no vintage specificity to the UPC, no vintage will come up, as the &#039;02 and &#039;05 have the same barcode.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not surprising that the information recorded is incomplete; many wineries get a UPC for one product, and re-use it throughout various years. Since there&#8217;s no vintage specificity to the UPC, no vintage will come up, as the &#8217;02 and &#8217;05 have the same barcode.</p>
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