Comments on: Bordeaux “bloodbath” coming after “artificial” demand: AFP

By: Tom Kruse

Tom Kruse — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:32:39 +0000

Gentlepeople,
I think we have reached a point in the United States and whatever our share of the market is such that the newer generation of wine drinkers have little to no knowledge of wines let alone good French wine. There is a proliferation of brands that has essentially made it impossible for these “opposable thumbed” tweeterst o keep track of. Information is at an overload level and will continue that way. Literally too many wineries and no brand recognition let alone loyalty.

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Dråpslag för Bordeaux-marknaden? | BKWine Magazine — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:08:25 +0000

[...] tror att det kan vara början på en kris för Bordeaux, medan t.ex. Tyler Colman (Dr Vino) inte verkar se det som något särskilt dramatiskt. Man kan inte låta bli att undra vad det kommer att ha för inverkan på den snabbt närmande [...]

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End of good times for Bordeaux? | BKWine Magazine — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:05:30 +0000

[...] Dan Berger, writing in the Napa Valley Register, thinks it may be the start of a crisis for Bordeaux , others don’t agree, e.g. Tyler Colman (Dr Vino) is more sanguine and does not seem to think it’s a big issue. [...]

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Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:03:05 +0000

[...] are looking for a home, including the unloved 2007s. One buyer predicts a “bloodbath” (again); Bloomberg cites “a consensus” among retailers that the deals will last about six to [...]

By: Suzanne Mustacich

Suzanne Mustacich — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:34:12 +0000

I think it’s going to be an interesting 2009 futures campaign. I’m the AFP journalist who wrote the story on Diageo dumping their wine on the market. I can tell you that the news sent a shockwave through Bordeaux. (I’m wondering if I won’t be crossed off a few invitation lists…)

Bordeaux – the merchants, the brokers and a handful of chateaux – is doing what it can to stabilize the market.

I don’t think Bordeaux is ready to abandon America, certainly not for Asia. I do think we’re experiencing a shift in how Bordeaux is sold in America.

And having visited many vineyards throughout the growing season and at harvest, I can attest to the incredible quality of the vintage. There will be some great buys among the ‘petits chateaux’ producers.

By: gary

gary — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:40:10 +0000

As far as I’m concerned it has been “Game off” since the 2005 vintage with respect to futures. I will say that because of the 05 vintage quality there are many great drinking Bdx Superior etc… available for under $20 or even $15 dollars.

It is clear that the price decreases in 2008 were meant to “find a floor” for Bdx. Even these prices IMO were too high and would have needed to be at 2002 prices or below to interest me.

I suspect that 2009 will be very expensive. With the exception of the high flyers I don’t think it likely that there will be a lot of interest in the US and if American consumers are smart they will stay away and let them sell to China. If 2009 is that good then there will be some terrific inexpensive wines on the market after release again in the $10-20 or even $25 range.

My advice—stay away

By: Chris Robinson

Chris Robinson — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:11:38 +0000

Are you guys kidding? The 2009′s will be high priced and the super seconds and primeur wines outrageously priced. Every one I trust – and these are people who have seen the viticulture – swear this will be one of the vintages of all time. Don’t live in high hopes of anything less than a rapacious Bordeaux trade.

By: ben

ben — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:42:15 +0000

We are hoping to see some action in price drops at the top level as well; hopefully a lot of 05,06, 08, and 09 will be priced well and we can pass a the prices on for our customers!

By: AC

AC — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:59:03 +0000

The 2006′s still need to find a home and there are reports that the warehouses on the east coast are full and waiting to find a home.

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:43:06 +0000

This is excellent news. I don’t care if the wine say Bordeaux, St. Emilion, Pomerol or Margaux. Inferior wine is inferior wine. Diageo gets what it deserves for speculating on a below average vintage.

Maybe this will keep prices on 2008 and 2009 sensible so non-speculators, on both the importer and customer level, will be able to participate. It is really not necessary to charge more than $25 or $35 per bottle given economies of scale for most wines (10k to 100k cases made by a given producer). I mean that in the sense producer and importer make a profit, and consumer doesn’t over-pay. If mid-level wines will still support $50-$100 prices, then so be it.

By: jim boyce

jim boyce — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:46:52 +0000

Well, one maker seems safe, thanks to the China effect – Lafite. At the Acker Merrall & Condit auction in Hong Kong last Saturday, one case of 1982 Château Lafite Rothschild sold at USD56000.

Cheers, J. Boyce