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	<title>Comments on: Maine law: children not to observe wine tastings</title>
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		<title>By: Bob R.</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-295113</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry - Repeal is in the works, and hopefully will happen in a few weeks.  I&#039;ve been working on repeal with a bunch of wine shop owners, and there are 2 bills that have been introduced to fix this.  There is a public hearing on the bills on Monday, then hopefully passage will be swift.  And yes, the real issue is why this was ever passed in the first place.  I recently met with the legislator who introduced this bill in the first place.  It was supposedly only intended to cover large grocery stores, but there was mistake in drafting that no one caught.  Of course, that begs the question of why there should be any such restriction at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry &#8211; Repeal is in the works, and hopefully will happen in a few weeks.  I&#8217;ve been working on repeal with a bunch of wine shop owners, and there are 2 bills that have been introduced to fix this.  There is a public hearing on the bills on Monday, then hopefully passage will be swift.  And yes, the real issue is why this was ever passed in the first place.  I recently met with the legislator who introduced this bill in the first place.  It was supposedly only intended to cover large grocery stores, but there was mistake in drafting that no one caught.  Of course, that begs the question of why there should be any such restriction at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Easter</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-295112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Easter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Bob, and all who posted here:
Some how, I missed this recent law and just learned of it on Laura Larson&#039;s Wine Crush radio show. Thanks for all the inputs posted.
As Laura shared in her January 23rd show, Unless we make better choices behind the voting curtain, we will continue to end up with bad laws such as this. Understandably, the law may have already been repealed by this time, (I will need to check), but still, It never should have happened.
We need to elect better legislators and better representation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Bob, and all who posted here:<br />
Some how, I missed this recent law and just learned of it on Laura Larson&#8217;s Wine Crush radio show. Thanks for all the inputs posted.<br />
As Laura shared in her January 23rd show, Unless we make better choices behind the voting curtain, we will continue to end up with bad laws such as this. Understandably, the law may have already been repealed by this time, (I will need to check), but still, It never should have happened.<br />
We need to elect better legislators and better representation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-278289</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The horror! If only there was someone to protect that child from such a horific experience. I don&#039;t know, someone closely related... Like a parent? Nope, legislate!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The horror! If only there was someone to protect that child from such a horific experience. I don&#8217;t know, someone closely related&#8230; Like a parent? Nope, legislate!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-278285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. Gary, you may not be far off.  Someone told me that the bill may have resulted from a parent or parents complaining because their child saw people drinking wine out of little cups at a wine tasting at a grocery store, and wanted some.  Also, at legislative hearings on several tasting bills, one or more substance abuse workers testified about concerns that children would see adults drinking wine on a regular basis at the grocery store.  As if that would be a problem!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Gary, you may not be far off.  Someone told me that the bill may have resulted from a parent or parents complaining because their child saw people drinking wine out of little cups at a wine tasting at a grocery store, and wanted some.  Also, at legislative hearings on several tasting bills, one or more substance abuse workers testified about concerns that children would see adults drinking wine on a regular basis at the grocery store.  As if that would be a problem!</p>
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		<title>By: J. Gary Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Gary Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only in America, as the old refrain goes. I am wondering what the rational and reasoning was behind such nonsensical legislation? A grandmother somewhere in Maine found it offensive that a child was present in a tasting room and convinced a legislator that it would be a good idea to ban such practices. The legislator thought that it would look good politically as well as thwart any future law suits by the parents of a child who somehow how and someway gained access to the home wine cellar and therefore decided to sue everyone they can for a big payday. That`s just one theory, I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only in America, as the old refrain goes. I am wondering what the rational and reasoning was behind such nonsensical legislation? A grandmother somewhere in Maine found it offensive that a child was present in a tasting room and convinced a legislator that it would be a good idea to ban such practices. The legislator thought that it would look good politically as well as thwart any future law suits by the parents of a child who somehow how and someway gained access to the home wine cellar and therefore decided to sue everyone they can for a big payday. That`s just one theory, I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good points Hazel.  By law, Bureau approval of all tastings is required.  Two years ago I drafted a bill (as a total outsider not really knowing the process at all) that would have allowed unlimited tastings, and would have allowed shops to hold them without getting approval, as long as they met the criteria for having tastings and simply notified the Bureau as to when they were having them.  The bill went nowhere, partly because it was submitted so late in the sesssion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good points Hazel.  By law, Bureau approval of all tastings is required.  Two years ago I drafted a bill (as a total outsider not really knowing the process at all) that would have allowed unlimited tastings, and would have allowed shops to hold them without getting approval, as long as they met the criteria for having tastings and simply notified the Bureau as to when they were having them.  The bill went nowhere, partly because it was submitted so late in the sesssion.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Meade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel Meade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As to the Bureau’s supposed burden if unlimited tastings are allowed, the person from the agency who testified said their projections showed that if unlimited tastings were allowed, there would be as many as 500 tastings a month(!!), and they couldn’t possibly keep up with having to approve each one. &lt;/i&gt; 

Why does the bureau need to &quot;approve&quot; wine tastings at all? 

Also, it&#039;s sort of a screwed up logic that says &quot;if the state doesn&#039;t have time to approve your activity, you can&#039;t be allowed to do it.&quot; 

If the state doesn&#039;t have time for all this paperwork, perhaps they should cut some of the red tape, instead of preventing people from running their businesses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As to the Bureau’s supposed burden if unlimited tastings are allowed, the person from the agency who testified said their projections showed that if unlimited tastings were allowed, there would be as many as 500 tastings a month(!!), and they couldn’t possibly keep up with having to approve each one. </i> </p>
<p>Why does the bureau need to &#8220;approve&#8221; wine tastings at all? </p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s sort of a screwed up logic that says &#8220;if the state doesn&#8217;t have time to approve your activity, you can&#8217;t be allowed to do it.&#8221; </p>
<p>If the state doesn&#8217;t have time for all this paperwork, perhaps they should cut some of the red tape, instead of preventing people from running their businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-272141</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the explanation Bob. That&#039;s a big help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation Bob. That&#8217;s a big help.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-271548</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leslie, I didn&#039;t deal with this part of it in my email to you.  When I drafted my bill 2 years ago to allow unlimited tastings, I visited some shops in New Hampshire to ask about their experience with tastings.  Apparently they were allowed unlimited tastings as long as they notified the appropriate agency as to when they would be conducting them.  One shop I visited said that when he sent his notification in, he said, in answer to the part about when he would be conducting tastings, that he would have them &quot;every hour that he was open.&quot;  When Maine was considering the bill that would allow unlimited tastings but would keep the provision requiring agency approval of tastings, one shop owner said he would submit an application for tastings that would list all 365 days of the year as his tasting dates.  Just to leave open the option to open bottles whenever he wanted to.
  Of course, it&#039;s hard to believe that we live in a country where this is even necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, I didn&#8217;t deal with this part of it in my email to you.  When I drafted my bill 2 years ago to allow unlimited tastings, I visited some shops in New Hampshire to ask about their experience with tastings.  Apparently they were allowed unlimited tastings as long as they notified the appropriate agency as to when they would be conducting them.  One shop I visited said that when he sent his notification in, he said, in answer to the part about when he would be conducting tastings, that he would have them &#8220;every hour that he was open.&#8221;  When Maine was considering the bill that would allow unlimited tastings but would keep the provision requiring agency approval of tastings, one shop owner said he would submit an application for tastings that would list all 365 days of the year as his tasting dates.  Just to leave open the option to open bottles whenever he wanted to.<br />
  Of course, it&#8217;s hard to believe that we live in a country where this is even necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-271484</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get all my approvals for the year at one time when I renew my license. I would still do that for &quot;unlimited&quot; tastings because in reality we would not do it every week. It&#039;s a lot of work. But to be able to have a bottle open daily should not require any extra approval. It should be allowed as part of a law for retailers that are allowed to have tastings in the first place. So the excuse of this &quot;burden&quot; is quite weak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get all my approvals for the year at one time when I renew my license. I would still do that for &#8220;unlimited&#8221; tastings because in reality we would not do it every week. It&#8217;s a lot of work. But to be able to have a bottle open daily should not require any extra approval. It should be allowed as part of a law for retailers that are allowed to have tastings in the first place. So the excuse of this &#8220;burden&#8221; is quite weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/08/25/maine-law-children-not-to-observe-wine-tastings/#comment-271474</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leslie, interesting that you mention your preference for opening an individual bottle as your featured special, because when I drafted a bill 2 years ago that would allow unlimited tastings, I mentioned that aspect in the memo I wrote in support of it.  I know that retailers would love to be able to open a bottle for customers to sample when they have something they want to feature. I would even state as a fact that many do it anyway now, but who knows who might be reading this blog.

  As to the Bureau&#039;s supposed burden if unlimited tastings are allowed, the person from the agency who testified said their projections showed that if unlimited tastings were allowed, there would be as many as 500 tastings a month(!!), and they couldn&#039;t possibly keep up with having to approve each one.  One legislator was totally skeptical; he asked the person testifying that if once they approve a shop for tasting the first time, after having inspected the premises, isn&#039;t each subsequent approval a formality as long as nothing changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, interesting that you mention your preference for opening an individual bottle as your featured special, because when I drafted a bill 2 years ago that would allow unlimited tastings, I mentioned that aspect in the memo I wrote in support of it.  I know that retailers would love to be able to open a bottle for customers to sample when they have something they want to feature. I would even state as a fact that many do it anyway now, but who knows who might be reading this blog.</p>
<p>  As to the Bureau&#8217;s supposed burden if unlimited tastings are allowed, the person from the agency who testified said their projections showed that if unlimited tastings were allowed, there would be as many as 500 tastings a month(!!), and they couldn&#8217;t possibly keep up with having to approve each one.  One legislator was totally skeptical; he asked the person testifying that if once they approve a shop for tasting the first time, after having inspected the premises, isn&#8217;t each subsequent approval a formality as long as nothing changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Bob. You have clarified a great deal of information. It still baffles me how our legislature thinks. And specifically how is the agency burdened by unlimited tastings? It would seem logical (ah there lies the problem!) that educated consumers will spend more thus generating sales tax revenues for the State. More than unlimited tastings, which can be a lot of work for a retailer, I am more interested in daily or weekly selecting a bottle, as my feature of the day, to let my customers taste before buying.

The irresponsible passing of bills &quot;in concurrence&quot; is becoming a very bad habit in our legislature, the Beverage Tax being a prime example (later repealed by a people&#039;s veto). They are a group wearing blinders with no thought of the unintended consequences. It is time, as you say, for Maine to enter the 21st century. The tax burdens and obstacles created by our legislature are steps backwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob. You have clarified a great deal of information. It still baffles me how our legislature thinks. And specifically how is the agency burdened by unlimited tastings? It would seem logical (ah there lies the problem!) that educated consumers will spend more thus generating sales tax revenues for the State. More than unlimited tastings, which can be a lot of work for a retailer, I am more interested in daily or weekly selecting a bottle, as my feature of the day, to let my customers taste before buying.</p>
<p>The irresponsible passing of bills &#8220;in concurrence&#8221; is becoming a very bad habit in our legislature, the Beverage Tax being a prime example (later repealed by a people&#8217;s veto). They are a group wearing blinders with no thought of the unintended consequences. It is time, as you say, for Maine to enter the 21st century. The tax burdens and obstacles created by our legislature are steps backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alastair, The bill I drafted 2 years ago would have removed the once-a-month tasting limit entirely. It also would have liberalized a bunch of other things about tastings.  Interestingly, your argument about wealthy Bostonians (and New Yorkers, etc.) was precisely one of the arguments I used in a long memo I wrote justifying the bill.  The then-Speaker of the House was a neighbor, and he gave me a little help (I think) in getting the ball rolling.  But basically I had put the bill together too close to the end of the session, and there was no time for it to go the full route through Committee hearings.  And apparently some legislators said the issue was too significant to try to bypass the hearing stage.

  That brings us to this year.  One legislator introduced a very simple bill that would just delete the provision limiting tastings to once-a-month.  That&#039;s the bill I testified in favor of before the Legal and Veterans Affairs Committee.  The legislators seemed somewhat receptive.  But besides the concerns of the substance abuse counselor, the head of the agency in charge of enforcing these laws testified that it would create too much of a burden on them if there were unlimited tastings. 

  At the same time, another bill was introduced that would allow hard liquor tastings, which was later amended to include beer tastings, both of which have not been allowed at shops.  The bill I testified for was then killed.  I believe the technical explanation is that it received a unanimous &quot;Ought Not to Pass&quot; vote in Committee, which effectively kills it.  I was told by someone at the State House that it was considered superfluous because the second bill was more comprehensive, and would also rewrite the wine tasting statute.  That bill eventually passed the Committee with an almost unanimous &quot;Ought to Pass.&quot;  All it did as to the number of tastings was to allow up to 3 in a month, but still limited to 12 total in a year.  I guess this is to allow coastal tourist towns to bunch their tastings into the Summer months.  Up to this point, at least the bill did no harm to wine tastings.  But then it just sat there for weeks (it is easy to track the progress of a bill on the legislature&#039;s web site).  All of a sudden, there was a amendment offered that would eliminate the beer and hard liquor part, which would essentially moot the whole bill.  Then, shortly afterwards, that same legislator offered an amendment that added the &quot;no child&quot; provision to the wine, beer, and hard liquor statutes.  That came near the end of the session.  Then, in rapid succession the bill made it through both the Senate and House, without a vote (I think it&#039;s called being passed &quot;in concurrence&quot;), passing just before the legislature adjourned for the session (and the year).

   I&#039;ve since been told that the legislator who sponsored the amendment is concerned about substance abuse issues, and didn&#039;t like the idea of children watching adults taste alcohol at grocery stores.  Putting aside the validity of such an argument, the law says nothing about grocery stores versus small shops.  Now it seems that it was only supposed to cover &quot;big box&quot; stores, but someone supposedly made an error in drafting, and no one noticed it (probably because no one read it).  Part of the problem is the way the legislative system operates.  After a bill makes it through committee, it can be amended by floor amendments, and if they&#039;re not too major, it doesn&#039;t have to go back to committee for review. That&#039;s what happened here.  

  As to why this kind of thing has happened in Maine, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m qualified to answer that, especially since I&#039;ve only lived here for 8 years.  Maine was apparently the first state to enact Prohibition and the last to repeal it, and had a very early Temperance/Prohibition movement.  But how and why that has carried into the 21st century, I don&#039;t really know.  As you probably know, most states have very quirky alcohol distribution and sales laws, with some states being very liberal in some respects but very restrictive in others.  It apparently took years for Maine to even allow wine tastings at shops, and the laws have remained pretty rigid.  My argument back 2 years ago was: by law, shop tastings must be free; shop owners are not in the business of giving away wine, have no incentive to over-pour, and only really want to pour enough so that people can appreciate the wine and hopefully buy it; so why worry about how often tastings are allowed.  Yet allowing more than one tasting a month seems difficult to achieve (one shop owner who testified when I did said a sympathetic legislator who approached him in the corridor said: &quot;You&#039;re never going to get unlimited tastings; how many do you really want to conduct?&quot;).  Maine is very unusual in some ways. For example, it is basically a Democratic state, yet both its US Senators are Republicans.  And there is a huge dichtomy here between the wealthier urban/coastal Maine and poorer rural Maine. And throw into the mix the throngs of wealthy tourists who swarm here in the Summer.

  Well, Alastair, I hope this answered some of your questions.  And I hope I haven&#039;t put everyone else to sleep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alastair, The bill I drafted 2 years ago would have removed the once-a-month tasting limit entirely. It also would have liberalized a bunch of other things about tastings.  Interestingly, your argument about wealthy Bostonians (and New Yorkers, etc.) was precisely one of the arguments I used in a long memo I wrote justifying the bill.  The then-Speaker of the House was a neighbor, and he gave me a little help (I think) in getting the ball rolling.  But basically I had put the bill together too close to the end of the session, and there was no time for it to go the full route through Committee hearings.  And apparently some legislators said the issue was too significant to try to bypass the hearing stage.</p>
<p>  That brings us to this year.  One legislator introduced a very simple bill that would just delete the provision limiting tastings to once-a-month.  That&#8217;s the bill I testified in favor of before the Legal and Veterans Affairs Committee.  The legislators seemed somewhat receptive.  But besides the concerns of the substance abuse counselor, the head of the agency in charge of enforcing these laws testified that it would create too much of a burden on them if there were unlimited tastings. </p>
<p>  At the same time, another bill was introduced that would allow hard liquor tastings, which was later amended to include beer tastings, both of which have not been allowed at shops.  The bill I testified for was then killed.  I believe the technical explanation is that it received a unanimous &#8220;Ought Not to Pass&#8221; vote in Committee, which effectively kills it.  I was told by someone at the State House that it was considered superfluous because the second bill was more comprehensive, and would also rewrite the wine tasting statute.  That bill eventually passed the Committee with an almost unanimous &#8220;Ought to Pass.&#8221;  All it did as to the number of tastings was to allow up to 3 in a month, but still limited to 12 total in a year.  I guess this is to allow coastal tourist towns to bunch their tastings into the Summer months.  Up to this point, at least the bill did no harm to wine tastings.  But then it just sat there for weeks (it is easy to track the progress of a bill on the legislature&#8217;s web site).  All of a sudden, there was a amendment offered that would eliminate the beer and hard liquor part, which would essentially moot the whole bill.  Then, shortly afterwards, that same legislator offered an amendment that added the &#8220;no child&#8221; provision to the wine, beer, and hard liquor statutes.  That came near the end of the session.  Then, in rapid succession the bill made it through both the Senate and House, without a vote (I think it&#8217;s called being passed &#8220;in concurrence&#8221;), passing just before the legislature adjourned for the session (and the year).</p>
<p>   I&#8217;ve since been told that the legislator who sponsored the amendment is concerned about substance abuse issues, and didn&#8217;t like the idea of children watching adults taste alcohol at grocery stores.  Putting aside the validity of such an argument, the law says nothing about grocery stores versus small shops.  Now it seems that it was only supposed to cover &#8220;big box&#8221; stores, but someone supposedly made an error in drafting, and no one noticed it (probably because no one read it).  Part of the problem is the way the legislative system operates.  After a bill makes it through committee, it can be amended by floor amendments, and if they&#8217;re not too major, it doesn&#8217;t have to go back to committee for review. That&#8217;s what happened here.  </p>
<p>  As to why this kind of thing has happened in Maine, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m qualified to answer that, especially since I&#8217;ve only lived here for 8 years.  Maine was apparently the first state to enact Prohibition and the last to repeal it, and had a very early Temperance/Prohibition movement.  But how and why that has carried into the 21st century, I don&#8217;t really know.  As you probably know, most states have very quirky alcohol distribution and sales laws, with some states being very liberal in some respects but very restrictive in others.  It apparently took years for Maine to even allow wine tastings at shops, and the laws have remained pretty rigid.  My argument back 2 years ago was: by law, shop tastings must be free; shop owners are not in the business of giving away wine, have no incentive to over-pour, and only really want to pour enough so that people can appreciate the wine and hopefully buy it; so why worry about how often tastings are allowed.  Yet allowing more than one tasting a month seems difficult to achieve (one shop owner who testified when I did said a sympathetic legislator who approached him in the corridor said: &#8220;You&#8217;re never going to get unlimited tastings; how many do you really want to conduct?&#8221;).  Maine is very unusual in some ways. For example, it is basically a Democratic state, yet both its US Senators are Republicans.  And there is a huge dichtomy here between the wealthier urban/coastal Maine and poorer rural Maine. And throw into the mix the throngs of wealthy tourists who swarm here in the Summer.</p>
<p>  Well, Alastair, I hope this answered some of your questions.  And I hope I haven&#8217;t put everyone else to sleep.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, 

Yes, I too would be interested to learn more. So if you&#039;re up for providing some more details, please feel free to post them here. Also, could you let us know who you are and in what capacity you were called to testify. 

Leslie, if you feel comfortable airing your thoughts about distributors, I think that could be an important part of the story. 

Alastair, Perhaps Leslie or Bob&#039;s comments about distributors will clarify? 

And on a lighter note, a reader sent in a comment that this must be the UK equivalent of the new Maine wine law http://imgur.com/Yq9Si.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, </p>
<p>Yes, I too would be interested to learn more. So if you&#8217;re up for providing some more details, please feel free to post them here. Also, could you let us know who you are and in what capacity you were called to testify. </p>
<p>Leslie, if you feel comfortable airing your thoughts about distributors, I think that could be an important part of the story. </p>
<p>Alastair, Perhaps Leslie or Bob&#8217;s comments about distributors will clarify? </p>
<p>And on a lighter note, a reader sent in a comment that this must be the UK equivalent of the new Maine wine law <a href="http://imgur.com/Yq9Si.jpg" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://imgur.com/Yq9Si.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob, I don&#039;t want to speak for Dr. Vino or his community, but local issues have been discussed here before and I think they are a great part of understanding specific issues going on in different locations. Like this post by the good doc on the Mass ballot initiative on wine in supermarkets here: http://slimm.in/g/g 

Since moving to New England I could not be more confused by the disconnect here between self perceived sophistication and troglodyte attitudes towards wine. And while I understand SOME of the history or puritan influences and prohibition&#039;s history in the area, New England has mostly moved away culturally from their traditional church views, and the local church away from a negative view of wine, so why is this old, &quot;cultured,&quot; highly populated, seemingly progressive, geographic location so bizarrely at odds with wine? I would love to understand more, and if you have insight starting with Maine I&#039;d love to hear it, here, or you can email me here: forums at vicoms.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I don&#8217;t want to speak for Dr. Vino or his community, but local issues have been discussed here before and I think they are a great part of understanding specific issues going on in different locations. Like this post by the good doc on the Mass ballot initiative on wine in supermarkets here: <a href="http://slimm.in/g/g" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://slimm.in/g/g</a> </p>
<p>Since moving to New England I could not be more confused by the disconnect here between self perceived sophistication and troglodyte attitudes towards wine. And while I understand SOME of the history or puritan influences and prohibition&#8217;s history in the area, New England has mostly moved away culturally from their traditional church views, and the local church away from a negative view of wine, so why is this old, &#8220;cultured,&#8221; highly populated, seemingly progressive, geographic location so bizarrely at odds with wine? I would love to understand more, and if you have insight starting with Maine I&#8217;d love to hear it, here, or you can email me here: forums at vicoms.com</p>
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