Comments on: Wine bottle recycling is low – but some bottles getting lighter http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/ wine talk that goes down easy Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: steve http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-350953 steve Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:53:03 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-350953 I've done some more thinking on this, and the answer to the problem and to the difference is bottle bills (deposit-refund laws.) Of the ten bottle bill states, only Maine and Iowa include wine in their programs. If all ten bottle bill states included wine bottles, I believe the wine bottle recycling rate would be consistent with other glass bottles. When you look across the board at all beverage containers, the bottle bill states recycle 70-95% of containers covered in their programs, while non-bottle bill states recycle around 30% or less. Since more beverage containers are recycled in the ten bottle bill states than the other 40 states combined, if we're serious about recycling containers, we need more states to pass deposit-refund laws, or even better we need a national bottle bill like many European countries have and Australia is talking about. All Canadian Provences have deposit programs on non-alcoholic and/or alcoholic containers. Of the ten Provences that DO include WINE in their programs, the recycling rate is around 80% or higher. I’ve done some more thinking on this, and the answer to the problem and to the difference is bottle bills (deposit-refund laws.) Of the ten bottle bill states, only Maine and Iowa include wine in their programs. If all ten bottle bill states included wine bottles, I believe the wine bottle recycling rate would be consistent with other glass bottles. When you look across the board at all beverage containers, the bottle bill states recycle 70-95% of containers covered in their programs, while non-bottle bill states recycle around 30% or less. Since more beverage containers are recycled in the ten bottle bill states than the other 40 states combined, if we’re serious about recycling containers, we need more states to pass deposit-refund laws, or even better we need a national bottle bill like many European countries have and Australia is talking about. All Canadian Provences have deposit programs on non-alcoholic and/or alcoholic containers. Of the ten Provences that DO include WINE in their programs, the recycling rate is around 80% or higher.

]]> By: Alex http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-298937 Alex Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:12:16 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-298937 Well there is something better coming Wine Bottle Renewing, it turns out glass recycling uses a lot of fuel to melt the glass, making it not as green as it seems, so why not take a cue from the old soda bottles and reuse them. Check Wine Bottle Renew Well there is something better coming Wine Bottle Renewing, it turns out glass recycling uses a lot of fuel to melt the glass, making it not as green as it seems, so why not take a cue from the old soda bottles and reuse them. Check Wine Bottle Renew

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]]> By: Camila http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-294650 Camila Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:25:12 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-294650 Does anyone know where to find USED-EMPTY small glass (plastic would work, too) liquor bottles, like airline size, 50ml or so would be just perfect! I am all about recycling and I would like to use them to give away samples, to promote my new product. I have been hunting for little bottles and have had no luck finding them, I would hate ending up buying brand new bottles when I am sure there might be tons of these to reuse and recyle =( PLEASE HELP Thank you! Does anyone know where to find USED-EMPTY small glass (plastic would work, too) liquor bottles, like airline size, 50ml or so would be just perfect!
I am all about recycling and I would like to use them to give away samples, to promote my new product. I have been hunting for little bottles and have had no luck finding them, I would hate ending up buying brand new bottles when I am sure there might be tons of these to reuse and recyle =(
PLEASE HELP
Thank you!

]]> By: steve http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-269124 steve Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:11:05 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-269124 Where there is mandatory or voluntary recycling, it always applies to households but less often to commercial establishments. I'm wondering if the consumption of wine/liquor outside the home compared to other items in glass bottles is higher, and therefore one reason for the difference. Since most bottle bills cover beer but don't cover wine/liquor bottles, this would be another reason. It could also be the wine/liquor crowd cares less about recycling, although I don't think that's it. So the obvious solutions would be stronger bottle deposit laws and increased recycling collection and mandatory (enforced) recycling laws. Where there is mandatory or voluntary recycling, it always applies to households but less often to commercial establishments. I’m wondering if the consumption of wine/liquor outside the home compared to other items in glass bottles is higher, and therefore one reason for the difference. Since most bottle bills cover beer but don’t cover wine/liquor bottles, this would be another reason. It could also be the wine/liquor crowd cares less about recycling, although I don’t think that’s it. So the obvious solutions would be stronger bottle deposit laws and increased recycling collection and mandatory (enforced) recycling laws.

]]> By: Mike http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-266493 Mike Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:20:32 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-266493 As a home winemaker, the only bottles that get recycled are the ones I can't use for my wines. These are the labels that are etched or painted on the glass. I wonder if there is a Phd thesis in how the amateur wine and beermaking hobby affects recycling efforts, CO2 production, etc. Thanks for the food for thought. As a home winemaker, the only bottles that get recycled are the ones I can’t use for my wines. These are the labels that are etched or painted on the glass.
I wonder if there is a Phd thesis in how the amateur wine and beermaking hobby affects recycling efforts, CO2 production, etc.

Thanks for the food for thought.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-266492 Lucy Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:12:26 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-266492 if your near Houston, i'll buy them. i'm trying to sanitized and reused bottles for my new product. thanks Lucy if your near Houston, i’ll buy them. i’m trying to sanitized and reused bottles for my new product.

thanks
Lucy

]]> By: Denise Slattery http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264557 Denise Slattery Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:52:27 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264557 Thanks for this discussion! I'm in Walla Walla where a fair amount of wine is consumed / sampled etc. It's maddening that wine bottles are "staged" for recycling at the local dump. Glass is too expensive to truck to a facility outside the city where actual recycling can occur. Residents have perception that glass is recycled. It's still sitting in a land fill! On another note - at our last bottling, I was all set to use a new, light weight eco-glass made by Saint-Gobain. The glass was even to manufactured in Washington State which meant further reduction on carbon footprint but the initial production run had problems. I'm optimistic that this product will be great for our winery. I firmly believe that using lighter weight bottle will have a positive impact on consumers who are looking to reduce and reuse in anyway possible. Here's a blog post about eco-glass from Wine Conscience http://wineconscience.com/?p=350 Thanks for this discussion! I’m in Walla Walla where a fair amount of wine is consumed / sampled etc. It’s maddening that wine bottles are “staged” for recycling at the local dump. Glass is too expensive to truck to a facility outside the city where actual recycling can occur. Residents have perception that glass is recycled. It’s still sitting in a land fill!

On another note – at our last bottling, I was all set to use a new, light weight eco-glass made by Saint-Gobain. The glass was even to manufactured in Washington State which meant further reduction on carbon footprint but the initial production run had problems. I’m optimistic that this product will be great for our winery. I firmly believe that using lighter weight bottle will have a positive impact on consumers who are looking to reduce and reuse in anyway possible.
Here’s a blog post about eco-glass from Wine Conscience
http://wineconscience.com/?p=350

]]> By: Debby Alford http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264431 Debby Alford Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:43:29 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264431 Can I sell my empty wine bottles to anyone? I have been saving them now for several months, and would hate to just throw them away. Is there not a MARKET for the empties, and not just a recycle bin? That seems like SUCH a waste, when these bottles are in great condition, and could be sanitized and reused by small wine companies. Can I sell my empty wine bottles to anyone? I have been saving them now for several months, and would hate to just throw them away. Is there not a MARKET for the empties, and not just a recycle bin? That seems like SUCH a waste, when these bottles are in great condition, and could be sanitized and reused by small wine companies.

]]> By: Marc http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264426 Marc Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:37:57 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264426 Interesting.... I would have thought glass takes more enery to make. does anyone no this for certain? Interesting….

I would have thought glass takes more enery to make. does anyone no this for certain?

]]> By: Dr. Vino http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264378 Dr. Vino Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:56:38 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264378 Marc - Aluminum, although light, takes a lot of energy to make. David - Great dedication! Pity they make it so hard for you. Thanks for stopping by. Marc – Aluminum, although light, takes a lot of energy to make.

David – Great dedication! Pity they make it so hard for you. Thanks for stopping by.

]]> By: David McDuff http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264348 David McDuff Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:41:39 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264348 I'd second what mph wrote, adding that in my (sub)urban municipality, curbside recycling programs only recently began to accept colored glass (green, brown, blue, etc.). Until then, I saved empties and carted them a "few" cases at a time to the local recycling center. I doubt, though, that many of my neighbors went to the same trouble -- a suspicion strongly reinforced by the amount of glass (and cans) that I saw put out as trash while out for early AM dog walks. Another factor that may figure in quite heavily, especially given the wine & spirits weighting of the data.... In my experience, disturbingly few bars and restaurants recycle. This, I hope, is not the case in states with bottle bills. But here in the greater Philly area, where there are no recycling requirements, an amazing amount of glass is tossed out with the trash. I’d second what mph wrote, adding that in my (sub)urban municipality, curbside recycling programs only recently began to accept colored glass (green, brown, blue, etc.). Until then, I saved empties and carted them a “few” cases at a time to the local recycling center. I doubt, though, that many of my neighbors went to the same trouble — a suspicion strongly reinforced by the amount of glass (and cans) that I saw put out as trash while out for early AM dog walks.

Another factor that may figure in quite heavily, especially given the wine & spirits weighting of the data…. In my experience, disturbingly few bars and restaurants recycle. This, I hope, is not the case in states with bottle bills. But here in the greater Philly area, where there are no recycling requirements, an amazing amount of glass is tossed out with the trash.

]]> By: Marc http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264344 Marc Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:56:40 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264344 What about wine in an aluminum bottle....? I saw and tasted a wine called THINK in an aluminum bottle. ligter (about 50% less than conventional glass bottle) and 100% recyclable. Not only does this seem practical, but it tastes good and its even a little fashion forward. it was about $9. www.thinkwinedrinkwine.com What about wine in an aluminum bottle….? I saw and tasted a wine called THINK in an aluminum bottle. ligter (about 50% less than conventional glass bottle) and 100% recyclable. Not only does this seem practical, but it tastes good and its even a little fashion forward. it was about $9. http://www.thinkwinedrinkwine.com

]]> By: Doctor Science http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264241 Doctor Science Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:33:23 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264241 More and more scientific evidence indicates that increased CO2 in the atmosphere has little effect on global temperature. All this effort by the wine industry and its customers to reduce the humans' carbon footprints is futile for the justifying reasons. Meanwhile, increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere have been scientifically shown to benefit plantlife. I assume this benefit would apply to vine growers. Why fight it? More and more scientific evidence indicates that increased CO2 in the atmosphere has little effect on global temperature. All this effort by the wine industry and its customers to reduce the humans’ carbon footprints is futile for the justifying reasons.

Meanwhile, increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere have been scientifically shown to benefit plantlife. I assume this benefit would apply to vine growers. Why fight it?

]]> By: vivaELvino http://www.drvino.com/2009/07/30/wine-bottle-recycling-is-low-but-some-bottles-getting-lighter/#comment-264237 vivaELvino Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:27:42 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4519#comment-264237 There are some fairly large metropolitan areas, such as Houston, who do not require recycling. There's no shortage of space for landfill and its cheaper for them to send it to the dump. Texas is a big wine market nationally and if that's the local sentiment I can see why it would make a big dent in the recycling figures. There are some fairly large metropolitan areas, such as Houston, who do not require recycling. There’s no shortage of space for landfill and its cheaper for them to send it to the dump. Texas is a big wine market nationally and if that’s the local sentiment I can see why it would make a big dent in the recycling figures.

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