Comments on: Why so few tasty American wines under $12? Wine importer Bobby Kacher http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/ wine talk that goes down easy Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Where are the thirst-quenching domestic reds? | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-375343 Where are the thirst-quenching domestic reds? | Dr Vino's wine blog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:54:09 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-375343 [...] that they are north of $25, so there’s only so much thirst one can quench. We have discussed California’s value challenge before several [...] [...] that they are north of $25, so there’s only so much thirst one can quench. We have discussed California’s value challenge before several [...]

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]]> By: The dearth of recommendable California wines under $12 | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-353647 The dearth of recommendable California wines under $12 | Dr Vino's wine blog Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:57:25 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-353647 [...] Yes, California makes a lot of wine and much of it is under $12. But, as we have discussed before, precious little of it the California wine under $12 is estate wine; rather it is often assembled from far-flung vineyards in steel tanks so large they could double as [...] [...] Yes, California makes a lot of wine and much of it is under $12. But, as we have discussed before, precious little of it the California wine under $12 is estate wine; rather it is often assembled from far-flung vineyards in steel tanks so large they could double as [...]

]]> By: Charlie Olken http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-323719 Charlie Olken Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:53:59 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-323719 How many would you like listed before you stop insulting everyone? Oh, and while you are at it, please list your name. Step up and tell us who you really are. Here is a hint by the way. I looked back through my data base of reviews from the past few years. I get almost one thousand West Coast wines rated as Good Values. Since, the topic was "Why so few tasty American wines, under $12?", I think the answer to that question for you and for Mr. Kacher is "I can name 1,000". How many would you like listed before you stop insulting everyone?

Oh, and while you are at it, please list your name. Step up and tell us who you really are.

Here is a hint by the way. I looked back through my data base of reviews from the past few years. I get almost one thousand West Coast wines rated as Good Values. Since, the topic was “Why so few tasty American wines, under $12?”, I think the answer to that question for you and for Mr. Kacher is “I can name 1,000″.

]]> By: Wino http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-323620 Wino Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:29:35 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-323620 Charlie Olken has got to be kidding. More likely he's simply rooting for his home team. Five wines that he lists for under $15? Five? Wow. You go Charlie! That sure shuts down Kacher, huh? Give me a break. There are single wineries in Spain and the south of France that put out more five different wines for under $15 that are really good. And you think that listing five from the entire state of California proves something? Go ahead, list some more, with the proviso that they can't be swill. Get a grip, Charlie boy. Charlie Olken has got to be kidding. More likely he’s simply rooting for his home team. Five wines that he lists for under $15? Five? Wow. You go Charlie! That sure shuts down Kacher, huh? Give me a break. There are single wineries in Spain and the south of France that put out more five different wines for under $15 that are really good. And you think that listing five from the entire state of California proves something? Go ahead, list some more, with the proviso that they can’t be swill. Get a grip, Charlie boy.

]]> By: Wino http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-323599 Wino Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:48:51 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-323599 Those Bridgeman wines are awful. There is absolutely nothing high qualuty about them. How about expanding the point to say "wines around $10 that you would actually want to drink"? Those Bridgeman wines are awful. There is absolutely nothing high qualuty about them. How about expanding the point to say “wines around $10 that you would actually want to drink”?

]]> By: Jerry http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-316714 Jerry Sun, 07 Nov 2010 02:45:07 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-316714 Here are Washington wines all at $10.00: W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Cabernet Sauvignon, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Riesling, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Viognier, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Syrah, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Merlot, and W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Chardonnay. These are high-quality wines released by Precept Wine Brands in Seattle. Named for William Bridgeman who in 1914 was a wine pioneer in the Yakima Valley. Here are Washington wines all at $10.00:
W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Cabernet Sauvignon, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Riesling, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Viognier, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Syrah, W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2007 Merlot, and W.B.Bridgeman Cellars 2008 Chardonnay. These are high-quality wines released by Precept Wine Brands in Seattle. Named for William Bridgeman who in 1914 was a wine pioneer in the Yakima Valley.

]]> By: The best bar in NYC for American wine? [reader mail] | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-304239 The best bar in NYC for American wine? [reader mail] | Dr Vino's wine blog Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:55:37 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-304239 [...] This may have to do with the fact that it is hard to find tasty American wines that retail for under $12 a bottle, thus putting them at a disadvantage in a restaurant situation with higher [...] [...] This may have to do with the fact that it is hard to find tasty American wines that retail for under $12 a bottle, thus putting them at a disadvantage in a restaurant situation with higher [...]

]]> By: California’s woes, obesity, Buffett, subway reading – sipped and spit | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-296880 California’s woes, obesity, Buffett, subway reading – sipped and spit | Dr Vino's wine blog Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:14:13 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-296880 [...] SPIT: California values The Bay Area NYT is the latest to ponder the question of why are there so few tasty value wines from California. [...] [...] SPIT: California values The Bay Area NYT is the latest to ponder the question of why are there so few tasty value wines from California. [...]

]]> By: Chile, upmarket, downmarket, SF, yellow cards – sipped and spit | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-296321 Chile, upmarket, downmarket, SF, yellow cards – sipped and spit | Dr Vino's wine blog Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:05:20 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-296321 [...] discussed the lack of tasty California values last year in relation to Fred Franzia, and heard from wine importer Bobby Kacher and winemaker Patrick [...] [...] discussed the lack of tasty California values last year in relation to Fred Franzia, and heard from wine importer Bobby Kacher and winemaker Patrick [...]

]]> By: Reid http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-293111 Reid Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:43:42 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-293111 There are dozens of good US white wines under $12 a bottle, as well as good zins, petite sirahs and the occaisional merlot. Can you come up with more good under-$12 non-US wines? I hope to god you can, given the ratio of US wine to all other producers around the world. There are dozens of good US white wines under $12 a bottle, as well as good zins, petite sirahs and the occaisional merlot. Can you come up with more good under-$12 non-US wines? I hope to god you can, given the ratio of US wine to all other producers around the world.

]]> By: The declining dollar, through the wine glass | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-292188 The declining dollar, through the wine glass | Dr Vino's wine blog Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:41:38 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-292188 [...] “Why so few tasty American wines under $12? Wine importer Bobby Kacher“ Permalink | Comments (2) | SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "The declining dollar, through the [...] [...] “Why so few tasty American wines under $12? Wine importer Bobby Kacher“ Permalink | Comments (2) | SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "The declining dollar, through the [...]

]]> By: James Koch http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-254957 James Koch Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:16:24 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-254957 "A 2 to 3 Euros a bottle wine has a chance of being under $12.00. But only a chance. The currency exchange is simply killing the trade." - Joe Dressner Joe's correct. A $12.00 wine is more likely a under Euro 2.00 wine - something, I'm sorry, I would never drink, buy or sell.(I'm speaking of wines from Italy. Other countries might have different pricing structures.) My Twitter on June 5th: $15 RETAIL. IMPORTED. Calculated @
$0.88/Euro 1 in '02. Now, $1.45. 65% increase. Ocean freight doubled. R u still drinking the same price point? 2:57 PM Jun 5th from TweetDeck Your $15.00 imported bottle of a wine of the same quality from Italy you consumed in 2002 is now more likely a $25.00 bottle - and only if the vintner didn't raise the price within the last 7 years. “A 2 to 3 Euros a bottle wine has a chance of being under $12.00. But only a chance. The currency exchange is simply killing the trade.” – Joe Dressner

Joe’s correct. A $12.00 wine is more likely a under Euro 2.00 wine – something, I’m sorry, I would never drink, buy or sell.(I’m speaking of wines from Italy. Other countries might have different pricing structures.)

My Twitter on June 5th:
$15 RETAIL. IMPORTED. Calculated @
$0.88/Euro 1 in ’02. Now, $1.45. 65% increase. Ocean freight doubled. R u still drinking the same price point?
2:57 PM Jun 5th from TweetDeck

Your $15.00 imported bottle of a wine of the same quality from Italy you consumed in 2002 is now more likely a $25.00 bottle – and only if the vintner didn’t raise the price within the last 7 years.

]]> By: Jerry Thorpe http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-254132 Jerry Thorpe Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:53:47 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-254132 I was told be a person who believes himself to be quite knowledgeable, that "Two Buck Chuck" won a blind wine tasting in New York. (Date unknown.) Is that true? Jerry Thorpe Tacoma, WA I was told be a person who believes himself to be quite knowledgeable, that “Two Buck Chuck” won a blind wine tasting in New York. (Date unknown.) Is that true?

Jerry Thorpe
Tacoma, WA

]]> By: Neil http://www.drvino.com/2009/05/21/wine-importer-bobby-kacher-value-wine-under-12/#comment-250915 Neil Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:51:19 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=4006#comment-250915 Interesting interview. It seems as though the current recession is forcing the hand in terms of wine prices. Several wine retailers and winemakers have told me recently that the average-price-per-bottle has dropped to between ten and fifteen dollars and the more expensive stuff is moving much slower. Joel Goldberg made a good comment above about the legal barriers. The 'forced distributor' factor is one that most folks probably aren't aware of... Interesting interview. It seems as though the current recession is forcing the hand in terms of wine prices. Several wine retailers and winemakers have told me recently that the average-price-per-bottle has dropped to between ten and fifteen dollars and the more expensive stuff is moving much slower.

Joel Goldberg made a good comment above about the legal barriers. The ‘forced distributor’ factor is one that most folks probably aren’t aware of…

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