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		<title>By: Green Shipping Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Carbon Impact of Shipping Wine</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-275247</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Shipping Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Carbon Impact of Shipping Wine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr. Vino: &#8220;The Tolll of WIne&#8221;  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RP</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-252232</link>
		<dc:creator>RP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don Casey brings up some interesting points.  Dr. Vino, could you weigh in and clarify?</description>
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		<title>By: Don Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-239883</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a life-long California resident, a subscriber to National Geographic, and have spent 17 years of my career in the IT department of APL, a container shipping/logistics company (from which I retired a few years back).  I have no connection to the wine industry, other than a 200+ bottle wine cooler in my garage and membership in 3 wineries’ wine clubs.  I DO have an appreciation and understanding of global transportation.

I&#039;ll keep this short… I see some serious flaws in the methodology used to produce the chart in the National Geographic article: 1) a failure to perform due diligence in discovering ACTUAL or COMMON origin-destination pairs used (rather than cherry-picking what discharge port works best for imports), 2) a gap in not including trucking emissions from origin (winery) to load port (Napa wins hands down), and 3) a serious flaw in ignoring the EXTENSIVE use of rail within the US.  

EVERY ONE OF THESE ISSUES has been set up in your chart to work to the advantage of foreign imports over California-produced wine, leading one to question not only the rigor of your work, but also whether there is bias involved. 

Perhaps even with the elements I cite above corrected, Napa still &quot;loses&quot;, I don&#039;t know.  The issues are so broad and pervasive however that I expect this will not be the last flame you and National Geographic receive on this topic.

As far as pointing out how transportation modalities CAN make a difference in carbon footprint, your paper is of definite value.  We should be looking at and discussing these issues.  In particular, the advantages of rail over trucking need to be fully understood; this work ignores those advantages.

In terms of the National Geographic article being presented as an authoritative account of ACTUAL carbon footprint... the California Wine Council should sue you for slander.

A more honest (real world) example would have wine from Australia shipped to LA, then sent by train to CHI and NY.  Wine from France should be shipped to the east coast (NJ most likely), then by rail to CHI and LA.  Wine from Chile actually MIGHT go up each coast... this is the one scenario where it would be justifiable (in the real world) to have two different sea legs.  Each evaluation should take into account the origin to load port leg (by truck); Napa to Oakland (50 miles), Bordeaux to Le Havre (400 miles), Yenda to Sydney (300 miles).  To ignore the significant carbon footprint/penalty of the French and Australian wineries distance from a seaport in this presentation is perhaps the most egregious lack of rigor in the fatally flawed graphic.  If you TRULY want people to be choosing wine based on total carbon footprint (due to transport), you MUST include winery-to-distribution center tallies to be honest to your audience (distribution center to retail can be considered a wash).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a life-long California resident, a subscriber to National Geographic, and have spent 17 years of my career in the IT department of APL, a container shipping/logistics company (from which I retired a few years back).  I have no connection to the wine industry, other than a 200+ bottle wine cooler in my garage and membership in 3 wineries’ wine clubs.  I DO have an appreciation and understanding of global transportation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep this short… I see some serious flaws in the methodology used to produce the chart in the National Geographic article: 1) a failure to perform due diligence in discovering ACTUAL or COMMON origin-destination pairs used (rather than cherry-picking what discharge port works best for imports), 2) a gap in not including trucking emissions from origin (winery) to load port (Napa wins hands down), and 3) a serious flaw in ignoring the EXTENSIVE use of rail within the US.  </p>
<p>EVERY ONE OF THESE ISSUES has been set up in your chart to work to the advantage of foreign imports over California-produced wine, leading one to question not only the rigor of your work, but also whether there is bias involved. </p>
<p>Perhaps even with the elements I cite above corrected, Napa still &#8220;loses&#8221;, I don&#8217;t know.  The issues are so broad and pervasive however that I expect this will not be the last flame you and National Geographic receive on this topic.</p>
<p>As far as pointing out how transportation modalities CAN make a difference in carbon footprint, your paper is of definite value.  We should be looking at and discussing these issues.  In particular, the advantages of rail over trucking need to be fully understood; this work ignores those advantages.</p>
<p>In terms of the National Geographic article being presented as an authoritative account of ACTUAL carbon footprint&#8230; the California Wine Council should sue you for slander.</p>
<p>A more honest (real world) example would have wine from Australia shipped to LA, then sent by train to CHI and NY.  Wine from France should be shipped to the east coast (NJ most likely), then by rail to CHI and LA.  Wine from Chile actually MIGHT go up each coast&#8230; this is the one scenario where it would be justifiable (in the real world) to have two different sea legs.  Each evaluation should take into account the origin to load port leg (by truck); Napa to Oakland (50 miles), Bordeaux to Le Havre (400 miles), Yenda to Sydney (300 miles).  To ignore the significant carbon footprint/penalty of the French and Australian wineries distance from a seaport in this presentation is perhaps the most egregious lack of rigor in the fatally flawed graphic.  If you TRULY want people to be choosing wine based on total carbon footprint (due to transport), you MUST include winery-to-distribution center tallies to be honest to your audience (distribution center to retail can be considered a wash).</p>
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		<title>By: The carbon footprint of wine @ Saver Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-238986</link>
		<dc:creator>The carbon footprint of wine @ Saver Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] frugal wines, I&#8217;ve never considered the carbon footprint of wine - until now.  According to Dr. Vino, National Geographic just published a diagram that illustrates the carbon footprint of wine by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John M. Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Coleman: I take issue with many of your conclusions. Regards - John M. Kelly</description>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-238055</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dr. Vino- 

I will write more when I have a chance, perhaps even just drop an email so as to do so in private.

I don&#039;t object to the assertion that transport and packaging are large energy sinks. In fact, while I have not put the time into the subject that you have, I agree wholeheartedly. I do disagree with the way the information has been chosen for inclusion and the way some of it is presented. As I read it, this graphic will only have a small caption with no other text? In the 30 seconds it has to send a message to the reader, that message is &quot;buy non-domestic wines no matter where you live. they&#039;re greener.&quot; If that were the truth and the entire story, I wouldn&#039;t have a problem with it.

As for insignificant port consolidation, if the hypothetical bottle in question were made in Burgundy? Mosel? Many other landlocked regions through out the world? Those hardly seem like insignificant journeys....especially when compared to Napa -&gt; LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dr. Vino- </p>
<p>I will write more when I have a chance, perhaps even just drop an email so as to do so in private.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t object to the assertion that transport and packaging are large energy sinks. In fact, while I have not put the time into the subject that you have, I agree wholeheartedly. I do disagree with the way the information has been chosen for inclusion and the way some of it is presented. As I read it, this graphic will only have a small caption with no other text? In the 30 seconds it has to send a message to the reader, that message is &#8220;buy non-domestic wines no matter where you live. they&#8217;re greener.&#8221; If that were the truth and the entire story, I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem with it.</p>
<p>As for insignificant port consolidation, if the hypothetical bottle in question were made in Burgundy? Mosel? Many other landlocked regions through out the world? Those hardly seem like insignificant journeys&#8230;.especially when compared to Napa -&gt; LA.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-238030</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nathaniel -

There are many routes that a bottle of wine can take on its journey from the winery to the consumer, especially wine from around the world. In our paper, we looked at two specific wines, Yellow Tail and Coulee de Serrant, and hypothetical one from California. For the actual bottles, I called the American importers and spoke with logistics managers about various modes of transport (including refrigerated truck from the winery in France to the port) as well as various routes (Yellow Tail often maximizes the sea journey, for example, and uses ports throughout the country). We factored this information into our study.

I gather from your comments that you are in the wine trade in California (in what capacity?).  Once we crunched some numbers, it became clear that the packaging mass and the mode of transportation were key variables in determining the carbon footprint of a bottle of wine. We wanted to capture those findings in a way to deliver this message and selected a cult (heavy) bottle from a mailing list seemed like a good way to capture that. The goal was to provide information about the various modes of transportation and packaging mass, not to stigmatize wines from California.

As to this material for NG, we were asked to add some new places of origin and a new point of consumption, LA. Because we were dealing entirely with hypothetical bottles in this instance, we did not have anyone to call and went with something approximating an average journey. Certainly much wine from Europe comes in through NY/NJ and is trucked across but ports in LA (Long Beach) and the Bay Area (Oakland) are also points of significant importation and warehousing. So we could have used NY and added a truck journey, which would have been higher than the number in the graphic above. Or we could have used the LA port itself, which would have had an even lower number than in the graphic above. So we split the difference and we opted for Texas.

As to neglecting the road portions of the foreign wines, the truck journey to the port is relatively small and for the sake of the graphic, the editors may have taken an artistic decision to consolidate the trucking data from both sides into one arrow.

I am encouraged that since the initial release of our paper that many wines from California have taken efforts to reduce the packaging mass either by using lighter weight glass or switching to box format (e.g. Almaden and Inglenook).

Best regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nathaniel -</p>
<p>There are many routes that a bottle of wine can take on its journey from the winery to the consumer, especially wine from around the world. In our paper, we looked at two specific wines, Yellow Tail and Coulee de Serrant, and hypothetical one from California. For the actual bottles, I called the American importers and spoke with logistics managers about various modes of transport (including refrigerated truck from the winery in France to the port) as well as various routes (Yellow Tail often maximizes the sea journey, for example, and uses ports throughout the country). We factored this information into our study.</p>
<p>I gather from your comments that you are in the wine trade in California (in what capacity?).  Once we crunched some numbers, it became clear that the packaging mass and the mode of transportation were key variables in determining the carbon footprint of a bottle of wine. We wanted to capture those findings in a way to deliver this message and selected a cult (heavy) bottle from a mailing list seemed like a good way to capture that. The goal was to provide information about the various modes of transportation and packaging mass, not to stigmatize wines from California.</p>
<p>As to this material for NG, we were asked to add some new places of origin and a new point of consumption, LA. Because we were dealing entirely with hypothetical bottles in this instance, we did not have anyone to call and went with something approximating an average journey. Certainly much wine from Europe comes in through NY/NJ and is trucked across but ports in LA (Long Beach) and the Bay Area (Oakland) are also points of significant importation and warehousing. So we could have used NY and added a truck journey, which would have been higher than the number in the graphic above. Or we could have used the LA port itself, which would have had an even lower number than in the graphic above. So we split the difference and we opted for Texas.</p>
<p>As to neglecting the road portions of the foreign wines, the truck journey to the port is relatively small and for the sake of the graphic, the editors may have taken an artistic decision to consolidate the trucking data from both sides into one arrow.</p>
<p>I am encouraged that since the initial release of our paper that many wines from California have taken efforts to reduce the packaging mass either by using lighter weight glass or switching to box format (e.g. Almaden and Inglenook).</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Vino- You seem to have moved on to some very high-traffic comment sections in other posts in your blog, but I would love to see you follow up here.

The two things I find troubling with this graph are: 
1. It seems as though some assumptions are made about ports of entry and distribution of CA wines, for instance choosing the most &quot;green&quot; port for the Bdx leg (how much of it really arrives in TX?), while ignoring the fact that a lot of transport is done by train here in the US. Gallo has the tracks running through their warehouse in Modesto if you don&#039;t believe me.
2. The convenient choices of jumping-off points for starting the meter on carbon. How are the wines from Chile, Oz, and various parts of France consolidated in port in their respective countries? It appears that is ignored in this graph, while the meter starts on CA wines at the cellar door.

I had some similar issues with the original working paper (conveniently assuming that all CA vineyards were tearing down forests to plant, using extra-heavy bottles, etc, and thus assigning extra carbon to them as compared to the other bottles tracked - not to mention the comparison of a miniscule production &quot;cult&quot; Napa winery to Yellowtail et al, where economies of scale among other factors like lack of barrel use were obviously going to work in the imported wines&#039; favor). However, this particular graph, if I read your entry correctly, will be printed in National Geographic, with a circulation no doubt in the millions. 

I object because I feel the readership of Nat Geo is conscious of these sorts of factors in making purchasing decisions, so there will certainly be a real effect of lost sales for CA wineries, whatever the exact number may be. I think this will be based on some information that is first, perhaps skewed to one side by the choice of data to include, and second, not presented clearly in this graph (the TX issue, for example?).

As a suggestion for continued updates to the working paper, why not weight your data for the real distribution method, in effect comparing apples to apples, 2 Buck Chuck to Yellowtail? This will take into account the actual consumption by domestic wineries with respect to glass used, amount of barrels imported, use of modes of transport other than truck (at least you didn&#039;t stick us with all air cargo!) and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Vino- You seem to have moved on to some very high-traffic comment sections in other posts in your blog, but I would love to see you follow up here.</p>
<p>The two things I find troubling with this graph are:<br />
1. It seems as though some assumptions are made about ports of entry and distribution of CA wines, for instance choosing the most &#8220;green&#8221; port for the Bdx leg (how much of it really arrives in TX?), while ignoring the fact that a lot of transport is done by train here in the US. Gallo has the tracks running through their warehouse in Modesto if you don&#8217;t believe me.<br />
2. The convenient choices of jumping-off points for starting the meter on carbon. How are the wines from Chile, Oz, and various parts of France consolidated in port in their respective countries? It appears that is ignored in this graph, while the meter starts on CA wines at the cellar door.</p>
<p>I had some similar issues with the original working paper (conveniently assuming that all CA vineyards were tearing down forests to plant, using extra-heavy bottles, etc, and thus assigning extra carbon to them as compared to the other bottles tracked &#8211; not to mention the comparison of a miniscule production &#8220;cult&#8221; Napa winery to Yellowtail et al, where economies of scale among other factors like lack of barrel use were obviously going to work in the imported wines&#8217; favor). However, this particular graph, if I read your entry correctly, will be printed in National Geographic, with a circulation no doubt in the millions. </p>
<p>I object because I feel the readership of Nat Geo is conscious of these sorts of factors in making purchasing decisions, so there will certainly be a real effect of lost sales for CA wineries, whatever the exact number may be. I think this will be based on some information that is first, perhaps skewed to one side by the choice of data to include, and second, not presented clearly in this graph (the TX issue, for example?).</p>
<p>As a suggestion for continued updates to the working paper, why not weight your data for the real distribution method, in effect comparing apples to apples, 2 Buck Chuck to Yellowtail? This will take into account the actual consumption by domestic wineries with respect to glass used, amount of barrels imported, use of modes of transport other than truck (at least you didn&#8217;t stick us with all air cargo!) and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>analyst - see my post and tyler&#039;s above. the #s were arrived upon by using TX as the port for the BDX portion, so trucking is form TX to LA.

I must say I&#039;m not familiar with ports of entry for French wine, so I can&#039;t say how accurate a picture this really paints. I had always assumed they arrive via container on the eastern seaboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>analyst &#8211; see my post and tyler&#8217;s above. the #s were arrived upon by using TX as the port for the BDX portion, so trucking is form TX to LA.</p>
<p>I must say I&#8217;m not familiar with ports of entry for French wine, so I can&#8217;t say how accurate a picture this really paints. I had always assumed they arrive via container on the eastern seaboard.</p>
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		<title>By: The analyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>The analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>French wines arrive at ports on the East Coast.  How can the CO2 number for the truck going from the East Coast to LA be so much less than the truck going from Napa to NYC? That does not make sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French wines arrive at ports on the East Coast.  How can the CO2 number for the truck going from the East Coast to LA be so much less than the truck going from Napa to NYC? That does not make sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-237692</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler - Is making port in Texas common for wine being transported by container from Europe? Or from anywhere for that matter?</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, 

Thanks for the interest in this topic. I checked with my co-author and we used a port in Texas as the American port for the Bordeaux wine to Los Angeles in this scenario. So there were fewer miles driven.

Local wine is, of course, a very low carbon option. I wrote an op-ed about that in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/opinion/30CTcolman.html

It&#039;s just that California produces 90% of American wine while over half the population lives east of the Mississippi. 

Please note that the above data are just for transportation; bottle weight and production method were assumed constant. For full details, please see the research paper. 

And also please bear in mind that the carbon footprint of wine is just one aspect of a wine buying decision.

Cheers,

Tyler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, </p>
<p>Thanks for the interest in this topic. I checked with my co-author and we used a port in Texas as the American port for the Bordeaux wine to Los Angeles in this scenario. So there were fewer miles driven.</p>
<p>Local wine is, of course, a very low carbon option. I wrote an op-ed about that in the NYT:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/opinion/30CTcolman.html" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/opinion/30CTcolman.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that California produces 90% of American wine while over half the population lives east of the Mississippi. </p>
<p>Please note that the above data are just for transportation; bottle weight and production method were assumed constant. For full details, please see the research paper. </p>
<p>And also please bear in mind that the carbon footprint of wine is just one aspect of a wine buying decision.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tyler</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing that up, Nathaniel! Guess we can wait to hear from Tyler on why the two numbers vary.</description>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie- Not Phillip, but look at the &quot;truck&quot; leg from Bdx to LA. Presumably that makes port on the eastern seaboard and goes by truck across the country? And the value assigned is 2.7 vs 4.4 from Napa to NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie- Not Phillip, but look at the &#8220;truck&#8221; leg from Bdx to LA. Presumably that makes port on the eastern seaboard and goes by truck across the country? And the value assigned is 2.7 vs 4.4 from Napa to NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/04/14/the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-in-national-geographic/#comment-237387</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Philip...where are you looking? There is no numerical data on the chart showing NYC to LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Philip&#8230;where are you looking? There is no numerical data on the chart showing NYC to LA.</p>
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