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	<title>Comments on: Leaders and liters&#8230;at Quinta de Vargellas</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-209273</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

We know that all Defense Secretaries--yes, even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.library.umaine.edu/cohen/bio/bio.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;William Cohen&lt;/a&gt;--must bow to the poetic titan among them, Donald Rumsfeld. Here&#039;s a taste of one of his classics, an improvisation from the Pentagon briefing room: 

&lt;strong&gt;The Unknown&lt;/strong&gt;
As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don&#039;t know
We don&#039;t know.

—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

See many more in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2081042/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article on Slate.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>We know that all Defense Secretaries&#8211;yes, even <a href="http://www.library.umaine.edu/cohen/bio/bio.htm" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">William Cohen</a>&#8211;must bow to the poetic titan among them, Donald Rumsfeld. Here&#8217;s a taste of one of his classics, an improvisation from the Pentagon briefing room: </p>
<p><strong>The Unknown</strong><br />
As we know,<br />
There are known knowns.<br />
There are things we know we know.<br />
We also know<br />
There are known unknowns.<br />
That is to say<br />
We know there are some things<br />
We do not know.<br />
But there are also unknown unknowns,<br />
The ones we don&#8217;t know<br />
We don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing</p>
<p>See many more in <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2081042/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">this article on Slate.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-209260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how Cheney puts his wife outside his &quot;party.&quot;

But I still think Caspar Weinberger would have made for a fine, fine poem.

Reminiscent of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~bump/E603/web04/Jason/Portfolio/image018.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fine poem&lt;/a&gt; from the 1980s comic strip &quot;Bloom County&quot;:

&lt;em&gt;How I love to watch the morn,
With golden sun that shines,
Up above to nicely warm
These frosty toes of mine.

The wind doth taste of bittersweet,
Like jasper wine and sugar.
I bet it&#039;s blown through others&#039; feet,
Like those of... Caspar Weinberger.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how Cheney puts his wife outside his &#8220;party.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I still think Caspar Weinberger would have made for a fine, fine poem.</p>
<p>Reminiscent of this <a href="http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~bump/E603/web04/Jason/Portfolio/image018.jpg" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">fine poem</a> from the 1980s comic strip &#8220;Bloom County&#8221;:</p>
<p><em>How I love to watch the morn,<br />
With golden sun that shines,<br />
Up above to nicely warm<br />
These frosty toes of mine.</p>
<p>The wind doth taste of bittersweet,<br />
Like jasper wine and sugar.<br />
I bet it&#8217;s blown through others&#8217; feet,<br />
Like those of&#8230; Caspar Weinberger.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-209032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, did you write &quot;[rhymes with first name of spouse].&quot; or was that actually a part of the poem? I&#039;ve never seen a poem point out to the reader exactly how it rhymes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, did you write &#8220;[rhymes with first name of spouse].&#8221; or was that actually a part of the poem? I&#8217;ve never seen a poem point out to the reader exactly how it rhymes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-208953</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brava, Emily!! 

Yes, the missing words above were &quot;Richard Cheney&quot; and &quot;Lynne.&quot;

They visited the Quinta in 1990. 

And Mark thought I&#039;d waste all your time with Casper Weinberger! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brava, Emily!! </p>
<p>Yes, the missing words above were &#8220;Richard Cheney&#8221; and &#8220;Lynne.&#8221;</p>
<p>They visited the Quinta in 1990. </p>
<p>And Mark thought I&#8217;d waste all your time with Casper Weinberger! <img src='http://www.drvino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-208944</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously? Dick Cheney? 

That&#039;s just so.... wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? Dick Cheney? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just so&#8230;. wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: mydailywine</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-208565</link>
		<dc:creator>mydailywine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poetry and port!
Way to reel us all in on a cold winter&#039;s day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poetry and port!<br />
Way to reel us all in on a cold winter&#8217;s day.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Quevedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar Quevedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes Vargellas even more special is its own train station, at the side of the Douro river. 

Until few years ago it had a station master, though nobody uses the train to reach Vargellas. But the train stills stopping there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes Vargellas even more special is its own train station, at the side of the Douro river. </p>
<p>Until few years ago it had a station master, though nobody uses the train to reach Vargellas. But the train stills stopping there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-208508</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark - 

Thanks for a good guess. I&#039;m not sure that all that referring to presidents as numbers really took off until the 41 &amp; 43 duo. I think that reference was to the size of their party doubling. 

To reward your creativity, you get a hint: Mr. Secretary was the same party (and era) as 40, 41, &amp; 43!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for a good guess. I&#8217;m not sure that all that referring to presidents as numbers really took off until the 41 &#038; 43 duo. I think that reference was to the size of their party doubling. </p>
<p>To reward your creativity, you get a hint: Mr. Secretary was the same party (and era) as 40, 41, &#038; 43!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rather cryptic.

My first instinct, since you mentioned a sitting secretary of defense during a war, is to focus on &quot;...as forty turned seventy-three...&quot;  I thought &quot;forty&quot; could refer to Ronald Reagan, the 40th president.  And the sitting sec of defense when Reagan turned 73 (in 1984) was Caspar Weinberger.

But something tells me that&#039;s not where this is going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rather cryptic.</p>
<p>My first instinct, since you mentioned a sitting secretary of defense during a war, is to focus on &#8220;&#8230;as forty turned seventy-three&#8230;&#8221;  I thought &#8220;forty&#8221; could refer to Ronald Reagan, the 40th president.  And the sitting sec of defense when Reagan turned 73 (in 1984) was Caspar Weinberger.</p>
<p>But something tells me that&#8217;s not where this is going.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/03/04/leaders-liters-quinta-de-vargellas/#comment-208485</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love learning about vineyards and wineries.  This is a neat location.  I also read about one on the blog site, luxury.affluence.org.  It is about a winery in California that is very organic in everything it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love learning about vineyards and wineries.  This is a neat location.  I also read about one on the blog site, luxury.affluence.org.  It is about a winery in California that is very organic in everything it does.</p>
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