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	<title>Comments on: Nicolas Joly on biodynamics, truth, song, and Mr. Big Muscle</title>
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		<title>By: Nicolas Joly on appellations, life forces and electromagnetic fields &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/02/24/nicolas-joly-on-biodynamics-truth-song-and-mr-big-muscle/#comment-377678</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Joly on appellations, life forces and electromagnetic fields &#124; Dr Vino&#039;s wine blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a roving show of Biodynamic wine producers, Joly leveled criticism at the appellation system (as he did three years ago at the event). He decried the system that has a tasting by committee, which tolerates wines with [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a roving show of Biodynamic wine producers, Joly leveled criticism at the appellation system (as he did three years ago at the event). He decried the system that has a tasting by committee, which tolerates wines with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Parker-Bashing - ZEIT-gemäß? &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parker-Bashing - ZEIT-gemäß? &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Joly bei DrVino über Biodynamik (engl.), hier [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Dawson</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/02/24/nicolas-joly-on-biodynamics-truth-song-and-mr-big-muscle/#comment-206328</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the link between Rudolf Stiener and growing grapes and making wine very interesting. I like the comment about the return to the 1200&#039;s with regard to farming. However I can&#039;t help but recall the OP-Ed page from December 2007 about box wine. I wondered if we would ever see a Clos de la Coulee Serrant in a box? Would that be taking biodyamics to the next level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the link between Rudolf Stiener and growing grapes and making wine very interesting. I like the comment about the return to the 1200&#8242;s with regard to farming. However I can&#8217;t help but recall the OP-Ed page from December 2007 about box wine. I wondered if we would ever see a Clos de la Coulee Serrant in a box? Would that be taking biodyamics to the next level.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/02/24/nicolas-joly-on-biodynamics-truth-song-and-mr-big-muscle/#comment-206176</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look at Biodynamics as the way wine likely was before serious and modern chemistry took hold. Back in the 1200&#039;s or so, there was no real way to make your wine stand out from neighbors other than to experiment with how you treated your soil and how you handled your vines, in the hopes that the attention would create new facets within your wine. 

Pretty much once the fruit was picked and pressed - your wine was going to be how it was going to be and there was nothing else you could do to influence it post-harvest.

Rediscovering the old tricks and vineyard practices of previous centuries is the essence of biodynamie. 

Joly attaches &quot;new age&quot; kind of philosophies to the process which in turn then makes biodynamie seem silly, but at the end of the day - there are tried and true techniques available to us that have been employed by generations of farmers that came before us and who had no other option but use these tools to make good wines and vineyards. 

I like seeing wine return to a natural state ---- no chemistry sets, just expression of its location.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at Biodynamics as the way wine likely was before serious and modern chemistry took hold. Back in the 1200&#8242;s or so, there was no real way to make your wine stand out from neighbors other than to experiment with how you treated your soil and how you handled your vines, in the hopes that the attention would create new facets within your wine. </p>
<p>Pretty much once the fruit was picked and pressed &#8211; your wine was going to be how it was going to be and there was nothing else you could do to influence it post-harvest.</p>
<p>Rediscovering the old tricks and vineyard practices of previous centuries is the essence of biodynamie. </p>
<p>Joly attaches &#8220;new age&#8221; kind of philosophies to the process which in turn then makes biodynamie seem silly, but at the end of the day &#8211; there are tried and true techniques available to us that have been employed by generations of farmers that came before us and who had no other option but use these tools to make good wines and vineyards. </p>
<p>I like seeing wine return to a natural state &#8212;- no chemistry sets, just expression of its location.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YEah I was just going to post that Gary, he seems like an interesting guy, even his homepage to his wine talks about how animals work with his vineyard Very Awesome yet really its just old school way of doing things]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEah I was just going to post that Gary, he seems like an interesting guy, even his homepage to his wine talks about how animals work with his vineyard Very Awesome yet really its just old school way of doing things</p>
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		<title>By: Gary "Iron" Chevsky</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/02/24/nicolas-joly-on-biodynamics-truth-song-and-mr-big-muscle/#comment-204517</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary "Iron" Chevsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was the French Wine Society event, wasn&#039;t it.  I asked the organizers about doing in in SF - no such luck.  thanks for the post.

Vaynerchuk appears to be all over this as well: http://tv.winelibrary.com/2009/02/23/talking-biodynamics-with-nicholas-joly-part-i-episode-628/   That guy...!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the French Wine Society event, wasn&#8217;t it.  I asked the organizers about doing in in SF &#8211; no such luck.  thanks for the post.</p>
<p>Vaynerchuk appears to be all over this as well: <a href="http://tv.winelibrary.com/2009/02/23/talking-biodynamics-with-nicholas-joly-part-i-episode-628/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://tv.winelibrary.com/2009/02/23/talking-biodynamics-with-nicholas-joly-part-i-episode-628/</a>   That guy&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2009/02/24/nicolas-joly-on-biodynamics-truth-song-and-mr-big-muscle/#comment-204494</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a feeling there was a lot of shouting and passion during this presentation. Then again, maybe that&#039;s just all the exclamation points. I like how he put it, that he is looking to express the truth of  the wine. He feels that we all were involved in biodynamics long ago and wines were true back then, but, with the advent of new technologies, that truth has been lost. Of course, that is until the technology of the internet, which he rightly points out can be a forum for anyone&#039;s voice. On our vineyard at Tin Cross, the team strongly believes in organic winemaking (especially the sustainable benefits) and makes it a point to capture the same values presented by the pioneers who first planted on our mountain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling there was a lot of shouting and passion during this presentation. Then again, maybe that&#8217;s just all the exclamation points. I like how he put it, that he is looking to express the truth of  the wine. He feels that we all were involved in biodynamics long ago and wines were true back then, but, with the advent of new technologies, that truth has been lost. Of course, that is until the technology of the internet, which he rightly points out can be a forum for anyone&#8217;s voice. On our vineyard at Tin Cross, the team strongly believes in organic winemaking (especially the sustainable benefits) and makes it a point to capture the same values presented by the pioneers who first planted on our mountain.</p>
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