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		<title>By: Karin</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-352026</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or boycott wine that destroys nature!
http://www.greenprophet.com/2011/09/judean-hills-wineries-israel/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or boycott wine that destroys nature!<br />
<a href="http://www.greenprophet.com/2011/09/judean-hills-wineries-israel/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.greenprophet.com/2011/09/judean-hills-wineries-israel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-166913</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me, even as an active environmentalist, I find attacking the carbon footprint of transporting wine to the point of boycott to be categorically ridiculous. The world is a mess with the amount of consumer goods that are needlessly created distantly from where they are consumed to reduce costs, and the amount of industries and companies that will exploit and destroy the environment in any way possible to turn a buck. I find it hard to imagine why one would take any time or effort to attack an industry built on protecting the environment to create a natural product. And that cherishes the regional differences in our planet to create unique products to act as ambassadors different regions of the world and of what a protected environment can create.

It is commendable to examine the carbon footprint and environmental impact of the wine industry so that it operates as efficiently as possible and to support local wineries as your other article does. But you shouldn&#039;t jump from those lessons to boycotting a popular holiday wine and huge marketing success for the wine industry. There isn&#039;t enough being done in the name of Beaujolais Nouveau to deserve that type of treatment.

I particularly don&#039;t like this attack because I have found that Beaujolais nouveau, although a gimmick, has been a great way of exposing casual wine drinkers or non-wine drinkers to the joys of the seasonal and regional differences of wine drinking. It&#039;s a simple wine, but a gateway wine to understanding the varieties of what exists around the world and the traditions that go into wine beyond cabernets. 

It is the greater understanding and exposure to the world and its varied environments that breaks down bigotry and inspires people to protect the environment. This is one of the great things about the wine industry and the gimmick of Beaujolais Nouveau. The carbon footprint of wine helps end ignorance and indifference about the environment for people that otherwise would be comfortable in isolation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, even as an active environmentalist, I find attacking the carbon footprint of transporting wine to the point of boycott to be categorically ridiculous. The world is a mess with the amount of consumer goods that are needlessly created distantly from where they are consumed to reduce costs, and the amount of industries and companies that will exploit and destroy the environment in any way possible to turn a buck. I find it hard to imagine why one would take any time or effort to attack an industry built on protecting the environment to create a natural product. And that cherishes the regional differences in our planet to create unique products to act as ambassadors different regions of the world and of what a protected environment can create.</p>
<p>It is commendable to examine the carbon footprint and environmental impact of the wine industry so that it operates as efficiently as possible and to support local wineries as your other article does. But you shouldn&#8217;t jump from those lessons to boycotting a popular holiday wine and huge marketing success for the wine industry. There isn&#8217;t enough being done in the name of Beaujolais Nouveau to deserve that type of treatment.</p>
<p>I particularly don&#8217;t like this attack because I have found that Beaujolais nouveau, although a gimmick, has been a great way of exposing casual wine drinkers or non-wine drinkers to the joys of the seasonal and regional differences of wine drinking. It&#8217;s a simple wine, but a gateway wine to understanding the varieties of what exists around the world and the traditions that go into wine beyond cabernets. </p>
<p>It is the greater understanding and exposure to the world and its varied environments that breaks down bigotry and inspires people to protect the environment. This is one of the great things about the wine industry and the gimmick of Beaujolais Nouveau. The carbon footprint of wine helps end ignorance and indifference about the environment for people that otherwise would be comfortable in isolation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-164274</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll be taking your advice and drinking a local Gamay. For Beaujolais Nouveau day I&#039;m going to pull the cork on a bottle of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winesny.com/NewYorkWines/WineRatings/RatingDetail.aspx?id=295&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whitecliff Vineyards Gamay Noir Estate Bottled&lt;/a&gt; just for spite. I was never a fan of Beaujolais Nouveau! The stuff gives me a headache.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be taking your advice and drinking a local Gamay. For Beaujolais Nouveau day I&#8217;m going to pull the cork on a bottle of <a href="http://www.winesny.com/NewYorkWines/WineRatings/RatingDetail.aspx?id=295" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Whitecliff Vineyards Gamay Noir Estate Bottled</a> just for spite. I was never a fan of Beaujolais Nouveau! The stuff gives me a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. vino: drink local at eben</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161839</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. vino: drink local at eben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] less expensive and greener shipping by boat, dr. vino acknowledges that and writes about it here: putting water in my own wine boycott. that said, he argument works for me, and long ago, i decided that beaujolais nouveau was pretty [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] less expensive and greener shipping by boat, dr. vino acknowledges that and writes about it here: putting water in my own wine boycott. that said, he argument works for me, and long ago, i decided that beaujolais nouveau was pretty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Silvio</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161580</link>
		<dc:creator>Silvio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, Joe is an importer?  Does he import Beaujolais nouveau?  Is that why he&#039;s so pissy?  You&#039;re indirectly slamming his business, Tyler!  Own up, Joe!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, Joe is an importer?  Does he import Beaujolais nouveau?  Is that why he&#8217;s so pissy?  You&#8217;re indirectly slamming his business, Tyler!  Own up, Joe!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161509</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe - 

I enjoy many of the wines in your extensive portfolio. I like that they are from small producers who often use organic methods of cultivation. I am also interested in the carbon footprint of consumer goods, including wine. Perhaps other consumers of your wines are also interested in no longer externalizing greenhouse gas emissions but instead trying to reduce them? Perhaps this is an issue you should embrace rather than attack as it would resonate with other consumers who enjoy your style of wines.

Yes, there is an eBook of my book. The hardcover edition is manufactured in the USA.

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/env/ask_pablo/2008/09/08/printers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;, a pound of paper has 0.29 lbs CO2e. At 1.5 lbs, my book has 0.45 lbs C02e. 

By contrast, a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau airfreighted to New York has has about 6 lbs CO2e. And for San Francisco, Seoul, and Tokyo, it&#039;s clearly much higher. 

Since about 12 million bottles of BN will be airfreighted this year, why don&#039;t we resume this discussion after the 12 millionth copy of my book has sold? Then I’ll still be at a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions generated by the BN 2008 vintage.  

Of note: Louis/Dressner features in the book as one of the best importers in America. 

Have a nice day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; </p>
<p>I enjoy many of the wines in your extensive portfolio. I like that they are from small producers who often use organic methods of cultivation. I am also interested in the carbon footprint of consumer goods, including wine. Perhaps other consumers of your wines are also interested in no longer externalizing greenhouse gas emissions but instead trying to reduce them? Perhaps this is an issue you should embrace rather than attack as it would resonate with other consumers who enjoy your style of wines.</p>
<p>Yes, there is an eBook of my book. The hardcover edition is manufactured in the USA.</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.salon.com/env/ask_pablo/2008/09/08/printers/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">this article</a>, a pound of paper has 0.29 lbs CO2e. At 1.5 lbs, my book has 0.45 lbs C02e. </p>
<p>By contrast, a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau airfreighted to New York has has about 6 lbs CO2e. And for San Francisco, Seoul, and Tokyo, it&#8217;s clearly much higher. </p>
<p>Since about 12 million bottles of BN will be airfreighted this year, why don&#8217;t we resume this discussion after the 12 millionth copy of my book has sold? Then I’ll still be at a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions generated by the BN 2008 vintage.  </p>
<p>Of note: Louis/Dressner features in the book as one of the best importers in America. </p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161283</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;By the way, what’s your take on the carbon footprint of getting food to Darfur?&lt;/em&gt;

If you can&#039;t tell the difference between the air shipment of grape juice to the wealthy world and the airdropping of emergency rations to a civil war-infested famine zone, then I pity you, Joe.

Your bombast ain&#039;t cute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>By the way, what’s your take on the carbon footprint of getting food to Darfur?</em></p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t tell the difference between the air shipment of grape juice to the wealthy world and the airdropping of emergency rations to a civil war-infested famine zone, then I pity you, Joe.</p>
<p>Your bombast ain&#8217;t cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dressner</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161270</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dressner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, what&#039;s your take on the carbon footprint of getting food to Darfur?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, what&#8217;s your take on the carbon footprint of getting food to Darfur?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dressner</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161269</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dressner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the point that I shouldn&#039;t read a Harlequin Romance because it might have had a small carbon footprint than Tyler&#039;s book or a novel by Ernest Hemingway or the latest Robert Parker book or anything else I might want to read?

Why doesn&#039;t the same hold true for wine?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the point that I shouldn&#8217;t read a Harlequin Romance because it might have had a small carbon footprint than Tyler&#8217;s book or a novel by Ernest Hemingway or the latest Robert Parker book or anything else I might want to read?</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the same hold true for wine?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161257</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the petulant Joe Dressner needs to take a sip of the wine of his choice, to take the edge off.  Perhaps while reading one of the Harlequin Romance novels he favors.  

Thanks, Tyler, for re-evaluating the facts and updating the site on the basis of research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the petulant Joe Dressner needs to take a sip of the wine of his choice, to take the edge off.  Perhaps while reading one of the Harlequin Romance novels he favors.  </p>
<p>Thanks, Tyler, for re-evaluating the facts and updating the site on the basis of research.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dressner</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161229</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dressner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, where are the printing plants of the books you publish? Where do they get the paper? What&#039;s the carbon footprint on your books as opposed to Harlequin Readers? Should I only be buying local authors editing by local editors and published by local printers?

Why don&#039;t we just go back to the old politics of America First! Let&#039;s boycott the rest of the world, build up trade barriers, organize embargoes, and finally go to war!

Yeah!

A little more rational thought might be in order.

By the way, give credit where credit is due. It was I who noted on your blog that Duboeuf was shipping by boat. So drink Duboeuf and strike a blow for the earth. But boycott Jean-Paul Brun and Domaine des Terres Dorées for their high carbon footprint!

Yeah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, where are the printing plants of the books you publish? Where do they get the paper? What&#8217;s the carbon footprint on your books as opposed to Harlequin Readers? Should I only be buying local authors editing by local editors and published by local printers?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we just go back to the old politics of America First! Let&#8217;s boycott the rest of the world, build up trade barriers, organize embargoes, and finally go to war!</p>
<p>Yeah!</p>
<p>A little more rational thought might be in order.</p>
<p>By the way, give credit where credit is due. It was I who noted on your blog that Duboeuf was shipping by boat. So drink Duboeuf and strike a blow for the earth. But boycott Jean-Paul Brun and Domaine des Terres Dorées for their high carbon footprint!</p>
<p>Yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161185</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the response - one point I picked up on was how the green farming effort makes much less difference than transportation to the overall carbon footprint - yet many of California&#039;s premium wineries continue to play the green card and yet ship in overweight bottles.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response &#8211; one point I picked up on was how the green farming effort makes much less difference than transportation to the overall carbon footprint &#8211; yet many of California&#8217;s premium wineries continue to play the green card and yet ship in overweight bottles&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Boicottaggio del Beajolais Nouveau a causa del suo impatto ambientale : Vino24</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161167</link>
		<dc:creator>Boicottaggio del Beajolais Nouveau a causa del suo impatto ambientale : Vino24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Colman ha fatto un giro di telefonate per capire cosa succederà e sappiamo quanto lui abbia già scritto sul tema carbon footprint. Prima ha chiamato Inter [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Colman ha fatto un giro di telefonate per capire cosa succederà e sappiamo quanto lui abbia già scritto sul tema carbon footprint. Prima ha chiamato Inter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161150</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting about the Tshirt idea! I&#039;ll check it out.

Bill - thanks for coming back; glad you liked it this time.

Sean - I considered those aspects. Here are some bullet points of my research on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drvino.com/2007/10/30/calculating-the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-my-research-findings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the carbon footprint of wine&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting about the Tshirt idea! I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
<p>Bill &#8211; thanks for coming back; glad you liked it this time.</p>
<p>Sean &#8211; I considered those aspects. Here are some bullet points of my research on <a href="http://www.drvino.com/2007/10/30/calculating-the-carbon-footprint-of-wine-my-research-findings/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">the carbon footprint of wine</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.drvino.com/2008/10/26/putting-water-in-my-own-wine-boycott/#comment-161093</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that we need to look the carbon footprint left by all the products we use and admire your attack on the unnecessary gimmick that is BN. However, carbon footprint is a complex issue. Let&#039;s take BN as an example. We probably agree that the only reason that so much BN is produced and drunk is because of the hype about the release date - air freight has meant that producers can race the wine more quickly to market - if BN was now to arrive a week later much of the energy that has gone into growth, production and shipping would find its way to the drain (the market would eventually adjust but waste would be created for years in the meantime). In addition BN is shipped all over the world and whilst air freight on the surface can generate 150 times the amount of green house gases than ship, one must deduct the additional gases produced driving wine to port and then distributing wine across the length and bredth of each country by truck - airfreight has become much more direct and reaches markets for producers that were not accessable. I do agree however with giving BN producers a longer window to get the wine to market for the mystique of the release date - because without that - well what do they really have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we need to look the carbon footprint left by all the products we use and admire your attack on the unnecessary gimmick that is BN. However, carbon footprint is a complex issue. Let&#8217;s take BN as an example. We probably agree that the only reason that so much BN is produced and drunk is because of the hype about the release date &#8211; air freight has meant that producers can race the wine more quickly to market &#8211; if BN was now to arrive a week later much of the energy that has gone into growth, production and shipping would find its way to the drain (the market would eventually adjust but waste would be created for years in the meantime). In addition BN is shipped all over the world and whilst air freight on the surface can generate 150 times the amount of green house gases than ship, one must deduct the additional gases produced driving wine to port and then distributing wine across the length and bredth of each country by truck &#8211; airfreight has become much more direct and reaches markets for producers that were not accessable. I do agree however with giving BN producers a longer window to get the wine to market for the mystique of the release date &#8211; because without that &#8211; well what do they really have?</p>
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