Comments on: In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/ wine talk that goes down easy Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:56:23 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Lorenzo Bolognini http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-261129 Lorenzo Bolognini Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:17:36 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-261129 I think wine in a box is a valid packaging also because it helps put the focus on what's important: the juice! It also might help drink more often, but less each time. L. I think wine in a box is a valid packaging also because it helps put the focus on what’s important: the juice!

It also might help drink more often, but less each time.

L.

]]> By: Box wines in O, Oprah magazine and Forbes.com | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-261117 Box wines in O, Oprah magazine and Forbes.com | Dr Vino's wine blog Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:58:31 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-261117 [...] “In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box“ Permalink | Comments (0) | SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Box wines in O, Oprah magazine and [...] [...] “In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box“ Permalink | Comments (0) | SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Box wines in O, Oprah magazine and [...]

]]> By: The best box wines of 2008 | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-197610 The best box wines of 2008 | Dr Vino's wine blog Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:44:17 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-197610 [...] box wines have been a strong growth segment for the past few years and consumer attitude, as least on this site, are ready. So I’m raising a glass in the hope that more producers will continue to see [...] [...] box wines have been a strong growth segment for the past few years and consumer attitude, as least on this site, are ready. So I’m raising a glass in the hope that more producers will continue to see [...]

]]> By: Joe Dressner http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-161873 Joe Dressner Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:43:31 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-161873 Dr. Vino is certainly makes a passionate argument here. What bothers me though, is the man releases books in paper form. Wouldn't the logic of his argument compel him to make a personal statement by only releasing his books in electronic form? I don't understand this seeming contradiction between his solution for the wine industry and his own personal endeavors. I am a wine importer (Louis/Dressner Selections) and a spirited proponent of the physical book and the bottle. But that's another argument. All I ask is that Dr. Vino embrace the same policies in his work that he urges the wine industry to embrace. When I see him do so, we can have an intelligent conversation and dialogue about the glass. Dr. Vino is certainly makes a passionate argument here. What bothers me though, is the man releases books in paper form. Wouldn’t the logic of his argument compel him to make a personal statement by only releasing his books in electronic form?

I don’t understand this seeming contradiction between his solution for the wine industry and his own personal endeavors.

I am a wine importer (Louis/Dressner Selections) and a spirited proponent of the physical book and the bottle. But that’s another argument.

All I ask is that Dr. Vino embrace the same policies in his work that he urges the wine industry to embrace.

When I see him do so, we can have an intelligent conversation and dialogue about the glass.

]]> By: Norah K. http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-137903 Norah K. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:26:54 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-137903 I am one of the owners of Blue Angel Wines in Brooklyn, NY and we carry "The Tank" an organic Cotes du Rhone from Jenny and Francois Selections. It holds 4 bottles and is packed in recycled packaging. It is a great boxed wine. I am one of the owners of Blue Angel Wines in Brooklyn, NY and we carry “The Tank” an organic Cotes du Rhone from Jenny and Francois Selections. It holds 4 bottles and is packed in recycled packaging. It is a great boxed wine.

]]> By: Southam http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-137804 Southam Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:19:23 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-137804 Your Ontario correspondent, Boxwhiner, suggests the province's centralized beer distribution which refills bottles could be duplicated by our equally centralized wine/liquor system. But with transportation prices rising, is there evidence that trucking empty bottles around actually reduces carbon? And where would the vast quantities of non-standardized imported wine bottles go? If the traditionalists sneer at a screw cap instead of a cork, imagine the sales resistance to burgundy and bordeaux showing up in exactly the same shape bottle. Ontario's provincial liquor authority, possibly the world's biggest wine retailer, is in step with Dr. Vino and is muscling its suppliers to go Tetra pack. These packs are accepted for recycling by some local waste authorities. But to return to the good Doctor's point, much of the stuff reaching the retail shelves so far is barely worth the bother. To widen the debate, the plastic "bottle" is beginnning to show up here, particularly from Australian producers who can make a substantial freight savings because of the container's significantly lower weight. Looks like a bottle, unscrews like a bottle (Australians care more about contents than knee-jerk tradition), is acceptable to recyclers, and makes economic sense in the global vineyard. Your Ontario correspondent, Boxwhiner, suggests the province’s centralized beer distribution which refills bottles could be duplicated by our equally centralized wine/liquor system. But with transportation prices rising, is there evidence that trucking empty bottles around actually reduces carbon? And where would the vast quantities of non-standardized imported wine bottles go?
If the traditionalists sneer at a screw cap instead of a cork, imagine the sales resistance to burgundy and bordeaux showing up in exactly the same shape bottle.
Ontario’s provincial liquor authority, possibly the world’s biggest wine retailer, is in step with Dr. Vino and is muscling its suppliers to go Tetra pack. These packs are accepted for recycling by some local waste authorities. But to return to the good Doctor’s point, much of the stuff reaching the retail shelves so far is barely worth the bother.
To widen the debate, the plastic “bottle” is beginnning to show up here, particularly from Australian producers who can make a substantial freight savings because of the container’s significantly lower weight. Looks like a bottle, unscrews like a bottle (Australians care more about contents than knee-jerk tradition), is acceptable to recyclers, and makes economic sense in the global vineyard.

]]> By: Sneaky Pete recipe | Beer Wine Liquor http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-136344 Sneaky Pete recipe | Beer Wine Liquor Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:21:44 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-136344 [...] In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box [...] [...] In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box [...]

]]> By: Music & Wine » Wine-In-A-Box http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-136053 Music & Wine » Wine-In-A-Box Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:10:24 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-136053 [...] Colman (AKA Dr Vino) has been talking about boxed wine a lot this week (post1 post2), including an op-ed piece in the New York Times on Sunday. I am very much in support of what [...] [...] Colman (AKA Dr Vino) has been talking about boxed wine a lot this week (post1 post2), including an op-ed piece in the New York Times on Sunday. I am very much in support of what [...]

]]> By: swuesquire http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135728 swuesquire Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:10:40 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135728 @David: While yes plants consume co2, the big deal is that there are not enough to soak up all the excess we are producing. This is not a liberal/ conservative issue, this is a science issue. @ Dr Vino: I was just able to find the Bandit wines after going to three big wine stores. I was unable to find the other two recommendations. Does anyone have other suggestions for good boxed/tetrapacked wines or where I can buy them? I live in Illinois. @David: While yes plants consume co2, the big deal is that there are not enough to soak up all the excess we are producing. This is not a liberal/ conservative issue, this is a science issue.

@ Dr Vino: I was just able to find the Bandit wines after going to three big wine stores. I was unable to find the other two recommendations.

Does anyone have other suggestions for good boxed/tetrapacked wines or where I can buy them? I live in Illinois.

]]> By: Boxed Wine enthusiast! http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135624 Boxed Wine enthusiast! Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:00:45 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135624 Carry that wine in a bag "incognito" - TheBag2Go Beverage System, available online is made of sturdy neoprene and allows you to take your wine where bottles are not allowed: the beach, the boat....can buy more refill bags -yes they are recyclable - and those can be filled with water, sports drink, kool-aid, [3 liters=6 water bottles that DON'T have to be used!!!]. Versatile. Fun and very hip! The Bag2Go. See video on youtube too! Carry that wine in a bag “incognito” – TheBag2Go Beverage System, available online is made of sturdy neoprene and allows you to take your wine where bottles are not allowed: the beach, the boat….can buy more refill bags -yes they are recyclable – and those can be filled with water, sports drink, kool-aid, [3 liters=6 water bottles that DON'T have to be used!!!]. Versatile. Fun and very hip! The Bag2Go. See video on youtube too!

]]> By: Tish http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135502 Tish Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:58:10 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135502 Nice work, Doc. I recommend Killer Juice Cabernet, Hardy's "Stamp" Shiraz" and Black Box wines in general. Too bad D-Tour is out of the game; that was even better. No doubt most of the wine that makes it into boxes could easliy be going into bottles. Unfortuantely, low-end bottles. I wonder if a higher-end producer will go for a box just for shock (PR) value. Like Plumpjack did with screwtops in the 1990s. Nice work, Doc. I recommend Killer Juice Cabernet, Hardy’s “Stamp” Shiraz” and Black Box wines in general. Too bad D-Tour is out of the game; that was even better. No doubt most of the wine that makes it into boxes could easliy be going into bottles. Unfortuantely, low-end bottles. I wonder if a higher-end producer will go for a box just for shock (PR) value. Like Plumpjack did with screwtops in the 1990s.

]]> By: David http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135356 David Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:47:22 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135356 The best advice I ever received was to never buy the liberal premice in the first place. The lib premice here is that something as natural as co2 is bad. Animals and human machines exhale co2 and plants breath the stuff and they in turn exhale oxygen. So a good bottle of red wine will feed many plants on its way from Napa to me in Florida. My bottle of red will leave a trail of happy plants and a trail of oxygen. But what the heck if libs ever do take over I will convert and sell carbon credits to libs that prefer glass bottles. The best advice I ever received was to never buy the liberal premice in the first place. The lib premice here is that something as natural as co2 is bad. Animals and human machines exhale co2 and plants breath the stuff and they in turn exhale oxygen. So a good bottle of red wine will feed many plants on its way from Napa to me in Florida. My bottle of red will leave a trail of happy plants and a trail of oxygen. But what the heck if libs ever do take over I will convert and sell carbon credits to libs that prefer glass bottles.

]]> By: Celeste http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135341 Celeste Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:01:23 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135341 So what are some decent box wines available here in the US? Banrock Station and Black Diamond are the only ones I've tried. So what are some decent box wines available here in the US?

Banrock Station and Black Diamond are the only ones I’ve tried.

]]> By: Jolly Green Giant recipe | Beer Wine Liquor http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135143 Jolly Green Giant recipe | Beer Wine Liquor Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:18:57 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135143 [...] In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box [...] [...] In the NYT suggesting to drink inside the box [...]

]]> By: Dr. Vino http://www.drvino.com/2008/08/18/in-the-nyt-suggesting-to-drink-inside-the-box/#comment-135131 Dr. Vino Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:17:03 +0000 http://www.drvino.com/?p=1908#comment-135131 Thanks for all these comments! I'm working on a big roundup to address the issues raised here. Cheers, Thanks for all these comments! I’m working on a big roundup to address the issues raised here.

Cheers,

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