Comments on: Bread, wine and liberty http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/ wine talk that goes down easy Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:09:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Terence http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-982 Terence Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:05:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-982 Although Jack got a little hyper, I do agree with him. What kind of demo are they going after that would mind the mention of wine on the damned bag? Connecticut's in the Bible Belt already? <BR/><BR/>Never mind the fact that it was reported as a GOOD thing that Jesus turned water into wine... Although Jack got a little hyper, I do agree with him. What kind of demo are they going after that would mind the mention of wine on the damned bag? Connecticut’s in the Bible Belt already?

Never mind the fact that it was reported as a GOOD thing that Jesus turned water into wine…

]]> By: Mitch http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-983 Mitch Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:02:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-983 Jack, having wanted to include the verse in the first place, we obviously thought it was a good idea. But, being fifty-somethings, we learned a long time ago not to assume that most people share one's own way of looking at things. We were startled by the reaction we received from the wide variety of friends whom we emailed...but why ask, if you're not prepared to consider the answer you get? For us, it's a matter of respecting our customers. That said, we hope you'll try WHB some time. We're passionate about our bread, which contains only artisan flour, organic spelt and rye that we mill ourselves, water, salt, and a pinch of yeast. Jack, having wanted to include the verse in the first place, we obviously thought it was a good idea. But, being fifty-somethings, we learned a long time ago not to assume that most people share one’s own way of looking at things. We were startled by the reaction we received from the wide variety of friends whom we emailed…but why ask, if you’re not prepared to consider the answer you get? For us, it’s a matter of respecting our customers. That said, we hope you’ll try WHB some time. We’re passionate about our bread, which contains only artisan flour, organic spelt and rye that we mill ourselves, water, salt, and a pinch of yeast.

]]> By: Dr. Vino http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-984 Dr. Vino Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:21:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-984 Amy - Indeed, birds of a feather ferment together--or something like that!<BR/><BR/>Jack - Whoa! What did you put in your hand-harvested, shade grown, organic Kona this morning?!? I guess this issue DOES arouse passions!<BR/><BR/>Timmyc - Thanks for the UK update. I know that the Boursin slogan was used in France as well. Amy – Indeed, birds of a feather ferment together–or something like that!

Jack – Whoa! What did you put in your hand-harvested, shade grown, organic Kona this morning?!? I guess this issue DOES arouse passions!

Timmyc – Thanks for the UK update. I know that the Boursin slogan was used in France as well.

]]> By: timmyc http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-985 timmyc Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:15:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-985 Interestingly the "Du pain, du vin, du boursin" ads ran in the uk as well - in fact I'm not sure they ever ran in France at all and they may have been aimed at the UK market, who at the time where also being told "The French adore Piat D'Or" which must of course be a lie as it's not available in France!<BR/><BR/>www.winepost.blogspot.com Interestingly the “Du pain, du vin, du boursin” ads ran in the uk as well – in fact I’m not sure they ever ran in France at all and they may have been aimed at the UK market, who at the time where also being told “The French adore Piat D’Or” which must of course be a lie as it’s not available in France!

http://www.winepost.blogspot.com

]]> By: Jack http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-986 Jack Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:37:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-986 No reason they shouldn't put that text on the package.<BR/><BR/>Afterall, who would want someone to buy your product that was so ultra-conservative that the mere mention of the word wine (surely a word not even in the Bible) on the package would cause them not to purchase it? Mitch either needs much better friends or a huge injection of common sense. (Perhaps these people you emailed thought your bread COMES with a bottle of wine with a kid-friendly label!)<BR/><BR/>Seriously, <B>this is one of the most ridiculous and boneheaded things I've read in a long time.</B> I would not buy his bread simply based on his super wimpy decision! (And I can't help thinking that this is exactly the kind of breadmaker who would put "organic high fructose corn syrup" in his bread. Wild yeasts - or does he mean Monsanto GMO yeasts?)<BR/><BR/>Mitch, if you're afraid to print a poem that has the word wine on a bread bag in CT, I don't think you should be running any kind of small business; such timidity is not the formula for <I>any kind</I> of long term business success. No reason they shouldn’t put that text on the package.

Afterall, who would want someone to buy your product that was so ultra-conservative that the mere mention of the word wine (surely a word not even in the Bible) on the package would cause them not to purchase it? Mitch either needs much better friends or a huge injection of common sense. (Perhaps these people you emailed thought your bread COMES with a bottle of wine with a kid-friendly label!)

Seriously, this is one of the most ridiculous and boneheaded things I’ve read in a long time. I would not buy his bread simply based on his super wimpy decision! (And I can’t help thinking that this is exactly the kind of breadmaker who would put “organic high fructose corn syrup” in his bread. Wild yeasts – or does he mean Monsanto GMO yeasts?)

Mitch, if you’re afraid to print a poem that has the word wine on a bread bag in CT, I don’t think you should be running any kind of small business; such timidity is not the formula for any kind of long term business success.

]]> By: Amy @ WineTalent.net http://www.drvino.com/2007/03/07/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-987 Amy @ WineTalent.net Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:55:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/03/bread-wine-and-liberty/#comment-987 Dr. Vino:<BR/>I too had thought about and even experimented with starting up a bakery. I toast their efforts, and hard work in starting up a great bakery. Good bread is hard to find.<BR/><BR/>With fermentation being of the utmost importance to wine, bread and cheese, I think they go hand in hand. But bread is also the staff of life, and to convey a wholesome, family friendly image, a connection with wine could possibly be a negative. <BR/><BR/>I'd want the verse on my bread in a heartbeat. But then again, I love wine, cheese and bread as much as life itself. So if they were going after my demographic, the verse should stay. Dr. Vino:
I too had thought about and even experimented with starting up a bakery. I toast their efforts, and hard work in starting up a great bakery. Good bread is hard to find.

With fermentation being of the utmost importance to wine, bread and cheese, I think they go hand in hand. But bread is also the staff of life, and to convey a wholesome, family friendly image, a connection with wine could possibly be a negative.

I’d want the verse on my bread in a heartbeat. But then again, I love wine, cheese and bread as much as life itself. So if they were going after my demographic, the verse should stay.

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