Comments on: Food Network to wine and organics: Drop Dead http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/ wine talk that goes down easy Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:13:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: The neglected wine pairing: food writing | Dr Vino's wine blog http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-105544 The neglected wine pairing: food writing | Dr Vino's wine blog Mon, 19 May 2008 15:47:47 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-105544 [...] is woefully underrepresented in food TV shows, and, as we’ve discussed before, it’s not likely to change on the Food Network. How about the Travel Channel? When Tony Bourdain advises his viewers about which wine goes with [...] [...] is woefully underrepresented in food TV shows, and, as we’ve discussed before, it’s not likely to change on the Food Network. How about the Travel Channel? When Tony Bourdain advises his viewers about which wine goes with [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-915 Anonymous Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-915 The sad fact--despite all that has been said--is that we are a dissident community. We <I>aren't</I> the majority viewership for FN. We might have been at one time, but we aren't any longer.<BR/><BR/>Besides, the one thing that no one here really wants to admit is that the vast majority of our countrymen and women are perfectly happy with bland and unchallenging food--the stuff Ruhlman calls culinary "muzak." Add some cayenne? Forget it. A rare steak? They'll send it back so you can throw it in the deep fry. Add some mushrooms? They'll stampede out the door.<BR/><BR/>Let's face it--as a whole--FN is providing this country with exactly what we deserve. Julia Child's dream is dead.<BR/><BR/>And as for Alton Brown... Don't try to convince me that his is still the same show that it used to be. And don't try to convince me that he's informative. When he comes along and tramples all over your native culture and cuisine--offering inaccurate information and stereotypical attitudes--then let's see what you say. The sad fact–despite all that has been said–is that we are a dissident community. We aren’t the majority viewership for FN. We might have been at one time, but we aren’t any longer.

Besides, the one thing that no one here really wants to admit is that the vast majority of our countrymen and women are perfectly happy with bland and unchallenging food–the stuff Ruhlman calls culinary “muzak.” Add some cayenne? Forget it. A rare steak? They’ll send it back so you can throw it in the deep fry. Add some mushrooms? They’ll stampede out the door.

Let’s face it–as a whole–FN is providing this country with exactly what we deserve. Julia Child’s dream is dead.

And as for Alton Brown… Don’t try to convince me that his is still the same show that it used to be. And don’t try to convince me that he’s informative. When he comes along and tramples all over your native culture and cuisine–offering inaccurate information and stereotypical attitudes–then let’s see what you say.

]]> By: Barrld http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-916 Barrld Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:15:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-916 Given the growing mainstream demand for and appreciation of wine I suspect that it's only a matter of time that FN add a wine show. Note too that Flay and Emeril always feature alcohol in the mix of their menus. if you can stand to watch either. I imagine that corporate at FN asks the question whether it will draw more views with greater focus on wine/organics as compared to the numbers lost/alienated. Dollars and cents at work here. Given the growing mainstream demand for and appreciation of wine I suspect that it’s only a matter of time that FN add a wine show. Note too that Flay and Emeril always feature alcohol in the mix of their menus. if you can stand to watch either. I imagine that corporate at FN asks the question whether it will draw more views with greater focus on wine/organics as compared to the numbers lost/alienated. Dollars and cents at work here.

]]> By: Jonathan Demoga http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-917 Jonathan Demoga Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:28:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-917 This is truly a sad day if this is the Food Networks responce. Sad but predictable. As a chef and culinary student it is quite offputting to watch the masses be miseducated about food. They have 24 hours a day to fill their channel with material yet none of it seems to promote the spirit of a real chef. Sure Iron chef is amazing, it's like watching a culinary duel fit for a roman arena, but I would like to see more educational programming besides what Altons doing (which is the ONLY informative show on the network) The worst part of it is that the food related shows that seem to generate the most buzz aren't even on food network, people are watching Top Chef, they're watching Hell's Kitchen, and No Reservations. Food network is just selling an opiate to the masses. Watching Sandra Lee maked me want to run outside and repeatidly headbutt the curb. Food Networks ignorance will only trump them in the end, when channels like bravo and the travel channel pull all of their audience and they are left doing LA Gear commercials on public access. By the way those are the sneakers that light up that had a one month run of popularity back in the 90's. Never heard of them? exactly. This is truly a sad day if this is the Food Networks responce. Sad but predictable. As a chef and culinary student it is quite offputting to watch the masses be miseducated about food. They have 24 hours a day to fill their channel with material yet none of it seems to promote the spirit of a real chef. Sure Iron chef is amazing, it’s like watching a culinary duel fit for a roman arena, but I would like to see more educational programming besides what Altons doing (which is the ONLY informative show on the network) The worst part of it is that the food related shows that seem to generate the most buzz aren’t even on food network, people are watching Top Chef, they’re watching Hell’s Kitchen, and No Reservations. Food network is just selling an opiate to the masses. Watching Sandra Lee maked me want to run outside and repeatidly headbutt the curb. Food Networks ignorance will only trump them in the end, when channels like bravo and the travel channel pull all of their audience and they are left doing LA Gear commercials on public access. By the way those are the sneakers that light up that had a one month run of popularity back in the 90’s. Never heard of them? exactly.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-918 Anonymous Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:37:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-918 I do agree that organic food is too expensive. My grocery store does`nt even offer organic foods and the nearest store that does is about 35 miles away. If I choose to drive that far and buy organic, then choice becomes do I spend my weeks grocery budget for one days worth of food or feed my family for the week with a lesser quality food? I do agree that organic food is too expensive. My grocery store does`nt even offer organic foods and the nearest store that does is about 35 miles away. If I choose to drive that far and buy organic, then choice becomes do I spend my weeks grocery budget for one days worth of food or feed my family for the week with a lesser quality food?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-919 Anonymous Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:51:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-919 Bourdain knows his stuff. And he is right about Food Network. Molto Mario was the bet. Iron Chef is as big a joke as it was in the Japanese versio. I need shows that show me how to make things, like Alton deos, as Mario did. And not that crapola Sarah the fool makes Bourdain knows his stuff. And he is right about Food Network. Molto Mario was the bet. Iron Chef is as big a joke as it was in the Japanese versio. I need shows that show me how to make things, like Alton deos, as Mario did. And not that crapola Sarah the fool makes

]]> By: pr9000 (paul) http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-920 pr9000 (paul) Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:06:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-920 One thing about Alton: He may film/shop at Whole Foods, but he doesn't preach the "religion" of organic food. There's a big difference there, subtle as it may be. One thing about Alton: He may film/shop at Whole Foods, but he doesn’t preach the “religion” of organic food. There’s a big difference there, subtle as it may be.

]]> By: Dr. Vino http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-921 Dr. Vino Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:25:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-921 Thanks for all your comments here and on Michael Ruhlman's blog and Ethicurean. One thing that this discussion shows is that there IS an appetite for more "niche" (real?) food programming. Beyond a whole new network, maybe FN could wake up and smell the organic Kona and actually dedicate some scrap of time--a half-an-hour a week?--to edgy food news? Restaurant trends, organic food, wine--maybe even some investigative reports! If they need to know where to find inspiration, they need look no further than that wild frontier of "the internets."<BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Tyler Thanks for all your comments here and on Michael Ruhlman’s blog and Ethicurean. One thing that this discussion shows is that there IS an appetite for more “niche” (real?) food programming. Beyond a whole new network, maybe FN could wake up and smell the organic Kona and actually dedicate some scrap of time–a half-an-hour a week?–to edgy food news? Restaurant trends, organic food, wine–maybe even some investigative reports! If they need to know where to find inspiration, they need look no further than that wild frontier of “the internets.”
Cheers,
Tyler

]]> By: kristin http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-922 kristin Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:49:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-922 Yea, what the public REALLY needs is for the FN to have more road shows. Those two are enough to alienate anyone with a brain. Yea, what the public REALLY needs is for the FN to have more road shows. Those two are enough to alienate anyone with a brain.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-923 Kevin Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:21:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-923 Wine network be damned (and no offense intended to the drinking public, I've been known to imbibe more than my share of the bottle) but we need a <I>real</I> Food Network. Wine network be damned (and no offense intended to the drinking public, I’ve been known to imbibe more than my share of the bottle) but we need a real Food Network.

]]> By: Liles http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-924 Liles Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:18:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-924 Notice that they overloaded the fairly great show the Thirsty Traveler to the Fine Living Network...which has less distribution, therefore keeping their non-offending practices up. It's sad really. And I like having food shows on tv, but there has to be a line between seeking wide appeal and putting out shows that don't truly serve the viewer in the best manner. Notice that they overloaded the fairly great show the Thirsty Traveler to the Fine Living Network…which has less distribution, therefore keeping their non-offending practices up. It’s sad really. And I like having food shows on tv, but there has to be a line between seeking wide appeal and putting out shows that don’t truly serve the viewer in the best manner.

]]> By: Diner Girl http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-925 Diner Girl Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:53:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-925 Oh for fuck's sake... they think wine might alienate a viewer, yet Aunt Sandy shows up drunk every Saturday morning mixing faux-jitos for children? Klassy..... Oh for fuck’s sake… they think wine might alienate a viewer, yet Aunt Sandy shows up drunk every Saturday morning mixing faux-jitos for children? Klassy…..

]]> By: Amandarama http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-926 Amandarama Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:23:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-926 Food Network is ridiculous. Organic food is too <I>expensive</I>? So is the preprocessed crap Sandra Lee assembles and has the temerity to call a "recipe". And not having programming dedicated to wine on the grounds that it may "alienate" some viewers is the weakest nonsense. Several of their programs have had episodes dedicated to booze (in part or whole). I doubt the "non-drinking viewers" threw a hissy when Paula Deen made eggnog spiked with bourbon. Food Network is ridiculous. Organic food is too expensive? So is the preprocessed crap Sandra Lee assembles and has the temerity to call a “recipe”. And not having programming dedicated to wine on the grounds that it may “alienate” some viewers is the weakest nonsense. Several of their programs have had episodes dedicated to booze (in part or whole). I doubt the “non-drinking viewers” threw a hissy when Paula Deen made eggnog spiked with bourbon.

]]> By: el jefe http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-927 el jefe Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:11:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-927 Interesting. Last fall we were invited to pour wine at a taping of a Food Network series episode. When the show ran recently, our wine was almost nowhere to be found - just one brief flash of a back label. Coincidence? Probably :) Interesting. Last fall we were invited to pour wine at a taping of a Food Network series episode. When the show ran recently, our wine was almost nowhere to be found - just one brief flash of a back label. Coincidence? Probably :)

]]> By: Jack http://www.drvino.com/2007/02/22/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-928 Jack Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:38:00 +0000 http://70.103.16.189/~drvinoco/wordpress/2007/02/food-network-to-wine-and-organics-drop/#comment-928 I think the day will soon come when Smithfield and Monsanto will be the Official Sponsors of the Food Network. And they shall be proud.<BR/><BR/>Followed by: Can Round-Up Ready be the next Hamburger Helper? I think the day will soon come when Smithfield and Monsanto will be the Official Sponsors of the Food Network. And they shall be proud.

Followed by: Can Round-Up Ready be the next Hamburger Helper?

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